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To: rktman

For the average non military CQ Combat trained shooter, neither is good for home defense.

The .22Lr would feel like a bee sting in just about every part of your body (except the head.)

Using a long rifle in the home is unwieldy.

We use a double barreled shot gun for that. If it comes down to using it in the house for defense, I don’t give a shit about the walls.


2 posted on 05/09/2016 10:47:11 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Same here RT. 20 gauge double Ithica circa 1920 with 3 buck.


3 posted on 05/09/2016 10:49:20 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Look up the Reagan shooting.

IIRC, 5 shots fired, 4 grown men taken to ground, one almost permanently, one left a paraplegic. Not one thought it a be sting.

Not the best, but only hits count. A hit with a 22 short is better than a miss with a 44 mag.


5 posted on 05/09/2016 10:52:04 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Vermont Lt
We use a double barreled shot gun for that.

I got a Cimmaron coach gun for my wife.

Not much to remember, just cock the hammers and pull the triggers.

25 posted on 05/09/2016 11:04:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Vermont Lt

00 Buck in an over/under.

Only way to go.


43 posted on 05/09/2016 11:23:48 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Vermont Lt

“For the average non military CQ Combat trained shooter, neither is good for home defense.”

Military CQB is not as good as what civilians and decent police departments get. Never has been. It is just that they have a very different task that they ARE good at. But they operate far removed from the legalities a cop or homeowner will have to know.


102 posted on 05/09/2016 1:26:42 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: Vermont Lt

A few years ago there was a dead guy on my utility room floor with a single .22 LR hole through his sternum who would beg to differ about any “bee sting.”

Dude staggered only 7 paces before he faced-out and started coughing up lung tissue.


140 posted on 05/10/2016 10:16:37 PM PDT by VTG
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