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Trump Was a Spark, Not the Fire
wsj ^ | 5 may 2016 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 05/06/2016 4:30:14 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

or this reason among others, I do not understand the impulse of the NeverTrump people to anathametize and shun those Republicans who will not vow to oppose Mr. Trump and commit to defeating him. They have been warned that if they don’t do these things they will not be allowed to help rebuild the party after Mr. Trump destroys it. Conservatives love to throw conservatives out of conservatism; it’s like an ancestral tic. But great political movements should not be run like private clubs. And have the anathemitizers noticed they aren’t in charge anymore? That in the great antiestablishment disruption of 2016 they have been upended, too?

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KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; nevertrump; noonan; trump; trumpgopnominee
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If they love Ms Clinton so much, clearly, they are NOT conservatives!
1 posted on 05/06/2016 4:30:14 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“Half the country wants something for nothing, and the other half wants to be left alone and not forced to pay for it.”

Top comment on WSJ site.


2 posted on 05/06/2016 4:31:45 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Watching Lou Dobbs on Fox Biz. WOW! He’s doing a good job! He will be on again later, and it is worth dvr-ing.


3 posted on 05/06/2016 4:32:02 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To them conservatism is globalism, that is the essential issue.

They get along with the Democrats very well because they believe in a one world government with the U.S. subservient to international control.

4 posted on 05/06/2016 4:32:41 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

They never have been. They’ve been chameleons. Shape shifters.


5 posted on 05/06/2016 4:32:52 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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Peggy Noonen. GOPe


6 posted on 05/06/2016 4:34:49 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (GOPe/MSM - "When we want your opinion, we will give it to you)
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#nevertrump is the laxative that induced a healthy cathartic movement in the GOP.


7 posted on 05/06/2016 4:35:24 PM PDT by Milhous (Donald Trump supporter.)
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To them conservatism is globalism, that is the essential issue.

The mission is to close with and destroy the enemy.
Not to have lunch with the sons of bitches!

8 posted on 05/06/2016 4:41:23 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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“Peggy Noonen. GOPe”

Agreed.

Sure, she’ll throw us a bone now and then, but her loyalties are elsewhere.


9 posted on 05/06/2016 4:41:38 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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She is feeling the tree shake.


10 posted on 05/06/2016 4:44:38 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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“Peggy Noonen. GOPe”

She likes to hear herself write.

11 posted on 05/06/2016 4:46:07 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Most of the leadership and public face of the #nevertrumpers are neo-con artists and their open-borders toadies. They invaded the republican party starting in the 1980’s, migrating from the democrat party like a virus. They are much more comfortable with Hillary than they are with Trump, because they were (and still are) democrats at heart.


12 posted on 05/06/2016 4:48:29 PM PDT by euram
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To: MichaelCorleone

I used to like her, but now all of her comments are cloaked with this annoyingly wistful tone of lament and loss. They read like diary entries written by a mommy who just dropped her kid off for her first day of school. Toughen up, Noonan.


13 posted on 05/06/2016 4:51:07 PM PDT by The Continental Op
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“Half the country wants something for nothing, and the other half wants to be left alone and not forced to pay for it.”
Top comment on WSJ site.

This one was pretty good, too (underlines mine):
"And have the anathemitizers noticed they aren’t in charge anymore?"

14 posted on 05/06/2016 4:53:28 PM PDT by Oatka (Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.)
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To: stocksthatgoup

That would be one of them. But no question the woman, at least at one point in her life, could string some words together!


15 posted on 05/06/2016 5:00:12 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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She’s been great on the Trump phenomenon. Truly.


16 posted on 05/06/2016 5:01:17 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I was (still am) a Cruz supporter. Consider myself a staunch constitutional conservative...with a sliver of libertarianism.

That said, I’ve no problem supporting Trump. First...constitutional conservatism, next Nationalism. America first in all things. Period.

Americans have given and given to the point of pain. Now it’s time for America/Americans to focus on ourselves. Trump is leading the way. Good on him.

For those who vow to vote for someone other than Trump, I say, kiss your country goodbye if that supreme court goes hard left. All that you’ve held sacred will be subverted.

Trump/Gingrich 2016


17 posted on 05/06/2016 5:07:02 PM PDT by servantboy777
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That said, I’ve no problem supporting Trump. First...constitutional conservatism, next Nationalism. America first in all things. Period.

Hear, hear!!

18 posted on 05/06/2016 5:18:29 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The answer is that Trump’s fans from the beginning came on as obnoxious and frankly, childish. They had no interest in winning people over. And now you’ve created a rift. Their habit of projection doesn’t help because it prevents them from figuring out the problem and stop doing it doesn’t help.
It was no more attractive seeing republicans engage in that, than it was seeing Democrats when they went all crazy over Obama.
The other reason people are angry is because their voice could not be heard on any issue of importance and no debate took place even in so-called debates... because the media made all the questions about Trump from the beginning in order to advance their ratings [he’s like a human car chase] , and people wanting to hear other candidates’ views get aired and discussed never got to hear them. That created one heck of a lot of resentment. That’s not Trump’s fault- he was doing what he knew how to do- but the media fell for it like they can’t resist showing a high speed car chase in LA, and did not do their job of reporting the news in a balanced way. They became fans themselves and denied other candidates their due. Paparazzi.
And there’s going to be resentment in those states which never had a say because it was decided before they even vote.
The last election ticked me off enormously because of the same negativity and mudslinging and lying- and the fact it was decided before we even got our say. The media chose the candidate then and chose our candidate now, with no input from most of the country’s Republicans.


19 posted on 05/06/2016 5:44:21 PM PDT by piasa
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The fire is the “mad as hell” people that voted for Trump!


20 posted on 05/06/2016 6:27:12 PM PDT by aquila48
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