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Ruling Expected Soon On Little-Known Case That Could Cause Major Problems For ObamaCare
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 4/26/2016 | John Merline

Posted on 04/27/2016 3:58:28 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer

ObamaCare has survived two high-profile trips to the Supreme Court largely unscathed, but a legal challenge that has so far attracted little attention poses a serious threat to the law.

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


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KEYWORDS: obamacare; scotusobamacare

1 posted on 04/27/2016 3:58:29 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer
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To: IBD editorial writer

A Supreme Court featuring Roberts as Chief Justice and Scalia deceased does not inspire confidence. Will they perform their prescribed duty as arbiters of the Constitution or will they say that doing so would “hurt too many people” and therefore Obamacare should be funded? My guess is the latter.


2 posted on 04/27/2016 4:12:48 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (If Hillary's last name were anything but Clinton, she'd already be behind bars.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

“Poses a serious threat to the law”

The law has largely accomplished its purpose and really would continue now to destroy the medical care system even if it were overruled by courts or even repealed.


3 posted on 04/27/2016 4:19:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Cruz never could have outfought Trump. I never knew, until this day, that it was Romney all along.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
It is a fool's errand to believe that the USSC will save the nation from Obamacare. Only a truly conservative right wing Congress and President can do that, and I do not see either of those on the horizon. Obamacare is hale and hearty and is well on its way to its final success: a Single Payor national health care system.
4 posted on 04/27/2016 4:31:08 AM PDT by buckalfa (I am feeling much better now.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

If it’s being un constitutional and un American wasn’t ant impediment THIS won’t be either.


5 posted on 04/27/2016 5:01:22 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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The ONLY purpose of Obamacare was to establish a permanent Democrat majority......a financial plan to use US tax dollars generated by the atrocity for the edification of Democrats ONLY.

STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE---Egged on by pie-eyed Pelosi. Dimocrats rammed the monstrous Healthcare bill through on a straight party-line vote and refused to consider a single legislative change---including Mike Enzi's bill to allow Americans to keep their exisitng plans.

Later desperate Democrats were reducted to frantically introducing “fix Obamacare” bills. Dims wanted to separate themselves from their aye votes that they sold to push Obamacare onto unsuspecting Americans------to no avail.

Republican strategists said ObamaCare would prove to be even more potent in 2014 than it was in 2010" (when Repubs took over the House) and that Democrats in competitive seats could see themselves washed out to sea.....actually in 2014 ten Obamacare Democrats washed out to sea w/out a lifeboat.

Predictions are that the misguided law could get even worse for Dimocrats. “It’s like quicksand. It's sucking people in. And this is just one component. Just wait until the next piece of this law is rolled out,” strategists said.

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Now, a really, really big problem for Obama is that people still remember CHEAPER PREMIUMS BEFORE Obamacare. Then they're told Obamacare higher premiums are the real ones BUT NOT TO WORRY---they're getting subsidies as a "gift" from Obama.....

....but here's the kicker.....in politics, it's OK for a pol to be clever and come up with clever ideas. But pols can't "appear" to be clever. B/c the citizenry equates POLITICAL cleverness with deviousness. (hat tip George Will on Fox)

6 posted on 04/27/2016 5:09:54 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
To the extent that anything works in ObamaCare, the “cost sharing” subsidies have at least proved popular. According to the Obama administration, 60% of those enrolled in an ObamaCare exchange received them last year.

Well, gee whiz, "free stuff" proves popular.

Whoodathunkit???!!!

7 posted on 04/27/2016 5:11:01 AM PDT by okie01 (The of the Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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Joe 's advice to Obooba.

"Just laugh--pretend like we don't know what
we're doing. That'll fool the dumb suckers."

8 posted on 04/27/2016 5:12:03 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
In Obamacare, the confluence of govt insurance and govt healthcare sets the stage for massive govt fraud---aided and abetted by opportunistic corrupt, greedy politicians.

MEDICARE/AID are fraud-ridden govt programs......now joined by Obamacare.

INSURANCE fraud is one of the easiest frauds to pull off....used by politicians to profit themselves, and to get and stay in office.

O/Care's hundreds of millions of tax dollars, subsidies, fees, penalties, asset confiscation via Medicaid users , makes this system ripe for money laundering and tax evasion........and all of the concomitant crimes that accompany it...like forgery, bank fraud, falsifying documents, and so on. (more below)

9 posted on 04/27/2016 5:18:11 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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CBSNEWS.COM--- Medicare Fraud: A $60 Billion Crime

Of all the problems facing the United States right now, none are more important than health care. President Obama says rising costs are driving huge federal budget deficits that imperil our future, and that there is enough waste and fraud in the system to pay for health care reform if it was eliminated.

At the center of both issues is Medicare, the government insurance program that provides health care to 46 million elderly and disabled Americans. But it also provides a rich and steady income stream for criminals who are constantly finding new ways to steal a sizable chunk of the half trillion dollars that are paid out each year in Medicare benefits.

In fact, Medicare fraud - estimated now to total about $60 billion a year - has become one of, if not the most profitable, crimes in America.

This story may raise your blood pressure, along with some troubling questions about our government's ability to manage a medical bureaucracy.

If you want to find Medicare fraud, the first place you should look is South Florida, where 60 Minutes and correspondent Steve Kroft were told it has pushed aside cocaine as the major criminal enterprise.

It's a quiet crime - there are no sirens or gunfire. The only victims are the American taxpayers, and they don't even know they are being ripped off.

FBI Special Agent Brian Waterman, who 60 Minutes rode with for several days, told us the only visible evidence of the crimes are the thousands of tiny clinics and pharmacies that dot the low-rent strip malls.

You don't even know they're there because there's never anyone inside. No doctors, no nurses and no patients. "This office number should be manned and answered 24 hours a day," Waterman explained, standing outside one of those small, unstaffed businesses. The tiny medical supply company billed Medicare almost $2 million in July and a half million dollars while 60 Minutes was there in August, but we never found anybody inside, and our phone calls were never returned.

Sometimes, they don't even have offices: we went looking for a pharmacy at 7511 NW. 73rd Street that billed Medicare $300,000 in charges. It turned out to be in the middle of a public warehouse storage area. "They've already told us that there's no offices here," Waterman told Kroft. "There are no businesses here. In fact they are not even allowed to have a business here."

Waterman is the senior agent in the Miami office in charge of Medicare fraud. And Kirk Ogrosky, a top Justice Department prosecutor, oversees half a dozen Medicare fraud strike forces that have been set up across the country.

The office Kroft visited operates out of a warehouse at a secret location in South Florida and includes investigators from the FBI, Health and Human Services, and the IRS.

"There's a healthcare fraud industry where people do nothing but recruit patients, get patient lists, find doctors, look on the Internet, find different scams. There are entire groups and entire organizations of people that are dedicated to nothing but committing fraud, finding a better way to steal from Medicare," Waterman explained.

"Is the Medicare fraud business bigger than the drug business in Miami now?" Kroft asked."I think it's way bigger," Ogrosky said. Asked what changed, Ogrosky told Kroft, "The criminals changed." "Sophistication," Waterman added.

"They've figured out that rather than stealing $100,000 or $200,000, they can steal $100 million. We have seen cases in the last six, eight months that involve a couple of guys that if they weren't stealing from Medicare might be stealing your car," Ogrosky explained.

"You know, we were the king of the drugs in the '80s. We're king of healthcare fraud in the '90s and the 2000's," Waterman added, speaking about South Florida.---SNIP---more at CBSNEWS.COM/60 minutes web site

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MOST RECENT MEDICARE FRAUD: U.S. authorities have charged 49 Russian diplomats and their spouses with conspiracy to commit healthcare fraud, alleging they stole $1.5 million from the American government via a years-long Medicaid fraud...the diplos falsified govt documemnts, lied about their income and citizenship status in order to qualify for pregnancy care, births, and post-natal medical. The Russians were also charged with conspiracy to steal government funds and make false statements WRT to health care. Medical costs associated with 92 percent of births to Russian diplomats (2004 to 2013) were illegal--covered by soaking U.S. taxpayers.

The FBI found conniving Russian families spent tens of thousands of dollars on luxury goods and vacations while exploiting Medicaid funds. The State Department would need permission from the Kremlin to prosecute due to diplos immunity. (Excerpt) more at thewire.com ...

10 posted on 04/27/2016 5:18:56 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: buckalfa

That’s true because they’ve already voted to save it once (when Roberts switched his vote to make it Constitutional, likely per blackmail) and then ignored other cases.


11 posted on 04/27/2016 5:24:22 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Liz

The purpose of Obamacare was to provide the government with a list of all your assets and access to the same. They are tracking you!!


12 posted on 04/27/2016 5:27:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Most offensive is that Boobamba was “lying-in-wait——like a common criminal-— to pull this off.

His candidacy and campaign promises were nothing but a cynical con game.


13 posted on 04/27/2016 5:30:51 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
An Obamacare money pit (for needy Democrats) is the so-called IPAB
Independent Payment Advisory Board--the first agency created as the “fifth branch” of govt.

1) It will make all important health care decisions by authorizing payment or not.

2) It is not funded by Congress and cannot have its budget reviewed or changed.

3) Its membership cannot be changed by future Presidents,

4) It cannot be repealed by Congress, except for a six month window in 2017.

5) Its decisions are not subject to judicial review.

6) It is not authorized by the Constitution, and is therefore immune to Constitutional processes.

14 posted on 04/27/2016 5:42:00 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

Whatever the problem is, Dread Pirate Roberts will “fix” it.


15 posted on 04/27/2016 5:43:40 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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SURPRISE: The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest

Egged on by Pelosi, no one in Congress told Americans about Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation). In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion and in 2015 and on, $2 billion........

In Obamacare, Democrats voted to nationalize 1/6 of the US economy ---- a renewable slush fund for consolidating Dem power. Once in the hands of the criminal hordes, all that money is untraceable.

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SELECTED DEMOCRAT QUOTES:
FROM THE UNEXPURGATED PAGES OF THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD
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<><> Nancy Pelosi (Dimwit-Calif) famously egged-on Congress to pass Obamacare "so we could see what’s in it.”

<><> Sen Mary Landrieu (Dimwit-LA) in the well of the Senate speaking to voters: "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan." Landrieu's O/care vote is popularly called the "Louisiana Purchase." Her (ahem) state got $4.3 billion when she voted aye. Where is the money, Mary?

<><> Sen. Dianne Feinstein (Dimwit-Calif): “I listened to the president and I believed him when he said,' if you liked your plan, you can keep your plan.' I didn’t realize there were all these codicils attached to it."

<><> Pres Barack Obama (Dimwit-Ill): "we fumbled" the healthcare roll out." (Nominated for Understatement of The Century).

16 posted on 04/27/2016 5:47:30 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

>A Supreme Court featuring Roberts as Chief Justice and Scalia deceased does not inspire confidence. Will they perform their prescribed duty as arbiters of the Constitution or will they say that doing so would “hurt too many people” and therefore Obamacare should be funded? My guess is the latter.

Just how many knocks to the head will it take before we, here, stop pontificating and hope beyond hope when we all know the track record of the current oligarchy in black?

‘It’s a tax’, ‘It’s a fee’, ‘State exchanges don’t mean “state” exchanges’...when the frigging question is never debated: By what authority?

You only begin at step 20 when the first 19 are by-gone conclusions. To whit: We are are no longer a Constitutional Republic and I wouldn’t p!ss on the 9 to put out a fire for the damage they’ve done.


17 posted on 04/27/2016 6:37:21 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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