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The 8 fastest growing tech skills worth over $110,000
Business Insider ^ | 04/25/2016 | Julie Bort

Posted on 04/25/2016 1:35:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Nifster
Most programming was NEVER about science

I think it started out being about torpedoes.

21 posted on 04/25/2016 6:48:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: dr_lew

Then you have an odd definition of science. But that happened in the 60s where the hard sciences took the back seat to the soft sciences


22 posted on 04/25/2016 6:58:50 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Yah. Computing is a “soft science”, unlike today’s hard sciences of propaganda and bamboozlement.


23 posted on 04/25/2016 7:25:51 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Amen!!!

How you speak the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!

CA....


24 posted on 04/25/2016 7:54:10 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: Chances Are

Thank you for your support. I looked through a very lengthy list of “CA” acronyms without seeing anything suggestive. So if you don’t mind ...


25 posted on 04/25/2016 9:02:32 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Resolute Conservative
I have been in tech since the mid 80’s and I cannot wait to leave it, just a couple more years unless I just throw in the towel. It is not about science anymore and has not been since about 2000 give or take. It has been bastardized to instant gratification, useless social media, spyware, and useless/convoluted business apps. IMO about 30% of the software out there provides a useful service.

I won’t even get into the demographics.

Call it burn out or whatever, it sucks.

That's why I got out. Also those salaries are less than I was making in 2000 in tech. So salaries have gone down since I left.

It used to be a great job then they sucked all the fun out of it. Mostly because the management had no technical capabilities and asked for crap to be made fast. Then complained it was crap. Which of course we told them it would be before the project started. But what does a software engineer know?

26 posted on 04/26/2016 12:27:31 AM PDT by stig
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To: stig

27 posted on 04/26/2016 5:31:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: stig

That is the issue I am faced with now. Management wants it yesterday, but continues to pile on more and more stuff in our iteration/sprints because they have to have it for the customers (and by experience customers never use it for at least a release or two). Then they wonder why we compile technical debt or crappy hacks at a rate that ends up biting us every 2 or 3 releases and require a total refactor, which they don’t like giving us time for then either. They are too obtuse to understand it and use phrases like “work harder” or “can’t we be more efficient” or “why is it so hard, isn’t it just a few boxes on a form”.

It is like this everywhere I have worked since 2008. This keeps up I will leave the industry and they can have the Indians.


28 posted on 04/26/2016 6:45:42 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative
It is like this everywhere I have worked since 2008. This keeps up I will leave the industry and they can have the Indians.

Yeah it was long hours, gave up many weekends. I remember thinking if I wanted to work this many hours I would have become a Doctor. Unfortunately I never seem to get productive until everyone left the office and left me alone. I thought about moving up in management but everything was being "spec"ed to send to the far east to complete. I didn't think I would be able to put up with quarterly trips to the far east when the kids out there ran into problems.

29 posted on 04/26/2016 7:16:39 AM PDT by stig
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To: stig

Yeah the company before this one wanted me to travel to Chennai at least 3 times a year for a couple weeks at a time. I said no and quit with no other job lined up.

The first two or three hours everyday was fixing what the Indians f’ed up overnight.

To top that they wanted us to “donate” a week of 12-14 hour days every six months on some bogus team competition BS to foster innovation. The idiot millennials ate this crap up. They just looked at me funny when I said, “you know you are working for free you morons”.


30 posted on 04/26/2016 7:23:28 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: I want the USA back

Lots of luck trying to get one of those jobs, if you’re American, White, male and over 55.

...

To some extent this desire to constantly migrate to new technologies is designed to get rid of higher paid and older employees.


31 posted on 04/26/2016 7:33:50 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

It is not about science anymore and has not been since about 2000 give or take.

...

Why does everyone keep saying 2000? I was encountering this crapstorm in the early 90’s. I guess I was ahead of my time.


32 posted on 04/26/2016 7:35:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

33 posted on 04/26/2016 7:39:53 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Moonman62

The social media BS had not taken off just yet. I count social media as the tipping point.


34 posted on 04/26/2016 7:40:58 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: bkopto

Same thing with JIRA. We use it at work. It’s a tool, you don’t make money by knowing how to use it. It’s one of many tools to help you do your job better.


35 posted on 04/26/2016 7:44:41 AM PDT by the_boy_who_got_lost
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To: bkopto

Big Data


36 posted on 04/26/2016 8:27:23 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: stig
It used to be a great job then they sucked all the fun out of it. Mostly because the management had no technical capabilities and asked for crap to be made fast. Then complained it was crap. Which of course we told them it would be before the project started. But what does a software engineer know?

I used to tell my boss "You want it bad, you get it bad."

Had one project designed in the 90's that I worked on that came in a few months late, mostly because of all the changes so I got a bad review. The next year I got a good review because the final product was so useful. It was basically an extremely fast data mining tool that was still in use when I retired three years ago. Of course, they were talking about rewriting it to modernize it, but knew that their new product would not be a flexible as mine. Going backwards to use the crap software available now.

37 posted on 04/26/2016 8:40:39 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (TRUMP. YES! Bye Bye hiLIARy.)
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To: w1andsodidwe

Cheap,fast,good; pick two.


38 posted on 04/26/2016 8:46:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Alternatively, you can work for a state government and make millions:

Intercollegiate head coach: $3.5 million

Heck, even a garbage collector in CA makes big bucks:

Refuse Collector: $143K

39 posted on 04/26/2016 9:21:54 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: mouse1
I’m sure our wonderful politicians will find a way to bring in IT workers on H1B’s to do this work for less.

With high speed data comm, I am sure the need to IMPORT the human body has all but disappeared. The latest is that the US born US citizen manager has to live part of the year overseas in the turd world countries supervising these low-paid, non-union, non-suing, non-EEOC, non-Affirmative Action, non-OSHA, skilled workers. Other than customer service accent difficulties, they can do the job of coding and building iPhones.

HIRE AMERICAN? Not going to happen. Blame it on low cost global comm and the US pols.

I am a trumpist, but I really do want to see how he is going to bring back - or import on a first time basis - all those hundreds of thousands of Apple jobs. Your new Apple phone will cost $2,000 AMERICAN $.
40 posted on 04/26/2016 9:43:19 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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