Posted on 03/13/2016 11:52:52 AM PDT by MtnClimber
I’m very happy to see YOU as well Bert ! Yep brass with some brass is rare these days.
Would not like to see each service chief be able to buy boutique boomage as more and more units are working jointly on multiple platforms. Be it ground, seaborne or air expeditionary forces the need for sharing a spare mag, or logistical field replacement parts / repair is just that.
IMO whatever the door kickers choose for worst case threats then the other services should follow suit. Marines & Army Infantry should set the standard and others follow.
If you are to small to handle, wear or shoot a viable handgun with a proven caliber then don’t join the service.
I shoot with ladies that carry and shoot 1911’s very well.
Would love to see the 1911 come back but a high capacity piece of combat tupperware should not be overlooked at all !
that would explain it fine...... we used 147gr OSM in MP5SD’s yet at my time and place the IMI ammo was issued for the M9’s if we carried em. Most of my unit stayed with the 1911 until they forced the “improvement” on us....
thanks for the info......stay safe !
Or a feather, like the unbearable, swishy Wiggles’ friend, Captain Feathersword. Can’t have *anything* that looks even remotely like a weapon.
I am a big Glock fan. The Glock 19 is a superb pistol.
My wife is 5'2" and weighs about 120lbs. For some reason she can't shoot a 9mm as accurately as a 40 or 45. When we went to purchase her carry piece she picked a compact 45ACP. Out to 20 yards she is deadly.
My daughter is 5'6" and weighs about 115lbs. She is the exact same as my wife when it comes to calibers. She carries a compact 40S&W instead of a 45ACP only because the pistol that fit her hand best did not come in 45. She is just as accurate out to 20 yards.
A very good friend of mine is one of the best firearms instructors in this state and he teaches people how to fiire even large caliber pistols safely and accurately while not hurting themselves.
If someone gave me a glock I’d sell it for whatever I could get and then buy something useful...
Ok, mostly joking.
Clearly I’m not a fan. But to each their own.
The most important thing to me is comfort and reliability. For my hand the glock isn’t nearly as comfortable as many others. I understand they have fixed the light strike problem, so their reliability issues have been addressed.
Goes way back. I think the problem(and much of this was leveled right at Britain)was that folks hit with soft-nosed projectiles were losing limbs instead of just getting patched up. What with most of them being non-professional soldiers, the PR was bad. Anyway, the prohibition came about around the time that ballisticians were learning of the joys of spitzer bullets, center of mass, and the magical 2400 fps barrier, where bullets start to do crazy things when destabilized.
Yes. They got around the Hague convention with the aluminum insert used in the nose of the MK VII .303 round which made it do crazy stuff when it hit while still being a FMJ bullet.
So what is the trick ?
My technique is it’s just the loudest hand canon
that I still can’t hit with!
But I love it.
Colt 2011..
Using 2 handed grip, just site center of mass down your arm over the sights as if they are your finger and squeeze. Yep, just as if you were pointing your finger at someone. The most amazing 5 minute block of instruction I ever had. I shot expert that very first time and continued ever since.
I’d take the .45 in a second. I read that Israel issues Desert Eagle 50 cals. I had one. TOO much for me. They will shoot through a car though- both sides.
Fill that with tobacco and you got yourself a decent weapon and condiment.
Actually, STI or Deltonics..
I really like the 1911, but I have not tried many models that are quite popular. The Sig always seems to impress people, but I never tried one....yet.
Okay!
Nice and simple,
Sounds like Massad Ayoob techniques,
Thanks
What is the favorite 45 ACP for those on FR? I watched a video on the Sig P227 and it looked pretty good except I would prefer an external safey. My favorite 45 was the first semi auto pistol I ever bought, a Colt Series 70 Gold Cup National Match.
Para 45 ACP, double stack magazine. No development needed. It is ready to go. There is a reason special forces carry the PARA Arms 45. Also with +P ammo you can turn up around 500 foot lbs of energy.
“They went from .45 to 9mm what’s next ...”
9mm NATO has a greater effective range and higher kinetic energy than 45 ACP.
The attribute gun enthusiasts call “stopping power” or “knockdown” has not yet been quantified and thus cannot (by law and DoD regulation) be considered in any acquisition decision.
Some calibers are good for one thing, some are good for other things. 9mm NATO defeats soft body armor better than 45 (which, in MIL STD loading, is one of the poorest in existence). Better still is 7.62x25 Tokarev, of WWII and Cold War infamy. 5.7x28 FN outranges all of them to a significant degree and zips through more layers of soft armor. Plus, 20 of them fit into a standard handgun magazine.
“Goes way back. ... folks hit with soft-nosed projectiles were losing limbs ... PR was bad. Anyway, the prohibition came about around the time that ballisticians were learning of the joys of spitzer bullets, center of mass, and the magical 2400 fps barrier, where bullets start to do crazy things when destabilized.”
The Hague Convention of 1899 banned small arms projectiles that “expand or flatten easily” in human tissue. This predates pointed projectiles (spitzer), which were first adopted by Imperial Germany in 1905, and then for improvement of external ballistics only (better retained velocity). No information was at that time available for the behavior of bullets (stable or not) inside any human body, so those attributes were not a factor in bullet selection.
At the time, selection of bullet jacket alloys was still a very uncertain process. The effects of machine gun feed systems and other autoloading guns were so violent - so hard on the ammunition itself - that the major powers did not raise any objections to this particular Convention clause - jackets were essential to making the guns run properly. Bullet design for terminal effects was still largely guesswork and nobody had developed a bullet jacket that would expand reliably every time, to boost lethality to any certain degree.
Additionally, military rifle bullets, unlike their civilian hunting counterparts, are often fired at targets other than living beings. Jackets were important in assuring a bullet could defeat light armor, penetrate structures, and damage equipment to a useful degree.
It is worth recalling that even a full jacket bullet will cause severe injury if it hits anything inside the victim, save soft tissue.
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