Pizza Vs. Bagels: Which Iconic New York Treat Do You Prefer?

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[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

But which is better -- pizza, or bagels?

If you can't decide, have both....

[r_barton]

Have you ever made a Chinese take out pizza? If anyone is interested, I will post a recipe.

[nickcarraway]

Please do.

[trisham]

I can’t choose. Both are amazing.

[RayChuang88]

Actually, both. With good reason: the Italian immigrants and Eastern European Jewish immigrants arrived almost at the same time, and as such both began to be made in the New York City region late in the 19th Century.

[Mark]

Ant Bloomberg tobacco flavored pizza available?

[pieceofthepuzzle]

“Have you ever made a Chinese take out pizza?”

General Tso’s peperoni?

[NYAmerican]

That was before they understood their white privilege.

[r_barton]

Chinese Five-Spice Flavored Pizza

One of my family members challenged me to make a pizza with Chinese flavorings. This makes a saucy, crunchy pizza that has the flavor of a Chinese BBQ Pork Bun. It turned out really good and now I have to make it frequently for my family.

Makes one 14 inch pizza

Total Time: about 7 hours (6 hour dough rise, 25 to 35 minutes baking)

Pizza Crust
3/4 cup Water (room temperature- about 70-F to 80-F)
3/4 teaspoon White Granulated Sugar
1 1/2 teaspoons Active Dry Yeast (or 1 packet)
2 1/4 cups All-Purpose Flour (don’t use bread flour, we want a biscuit like dough)
1/3 cup Yellow Cornmeal
3/4 teaspoon (0.25 oz) Table Salt
1/3 cup Cooking Oil ( 5 Tbsp Corn or Canola oil and 1 Tbsp Olive Oil)

- Add sugar and yeast to water, stir well. If not using instant yeast, allow the yeast to bloom in water for about
15-minutes. If using instant yeast, you can use the water mixture right away.
- Stir in flour, cornmeal and salt. Mix well.
- Stir in cooking oils.
- Mix for 1 minute then knead for 3 minutes. You can use a stand mixer or by hand. Add more flour or warm
water, a Tablespoon at a time, as needed, to make a workable dough.
- Don’t over-knead, we want a biscuit like dough.
- Form dough into a ball, place in a large mixing bowl, coat dough lightly with oil, cover bowl and let dough rise
in a warm place for 6 hours. This long rise time develops a rich flavor in the dough that comes through in the
baked crust. You can use the dough after about 1 hour of rise, but it won’t have the deep flavor.
- Punch down dough and allow it to rest 10 to 15 minutes.
- Press dough into pizza pan.
- Coat pizza dough evenly with Chinese BBQ Pork Bun Flavored Pizza Sauce.
- Add toppings evenly in the order listed.
- Bake at 425 F for 25 minutes

Chinese Five-Spice Flavored Pizza Sauce:

1 1/4 cups Hunts Garlic and Herb Pasta sauce
1/3 cup + 2 Tbsp Sweet Baby Rays BBQ sauce
1 Tbsp Hoisin Sauce
1 Tbsp Honey
1 1/2 tsp Oyster Sauce
1 1/2 tsp Soy Sauce
1 1/2 tsp Toasted Sesame Oil
1 1/2 tsp Seasoned Rice Vinegar
1/2 tsp Chinese five spice powder
1/2 tsp Hickory flavored liquid smoke

Combine ingredients and mix well. Spread on pizza.

Toppings:

2 cups Shredded Pulled Pork, drained of any liquid
1 cup finely diced cabbage coleslaw mix
1/2 cup Water Chestnuts, Diced (from canned, drained)
1 cup French’s French Fried Onions (the ones used on a green bean casserole)
1 cup La Choy Chow Mein Noodles, slightly crushed
3/4 cup shredded Walmart Great Value Fiesta Blend cheese (Monterey jack, cheddar, Queso Quesadilla, asadero cheese)

[Secret Agent Man]

I eat pizza bagels.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

If I reheat my take-out does that count as “Twice Cooked Pizza”?

[Larry Lucido]

Alex: You know when you make a pizza bagel, you really shouldn’t use cinnimon rasin.

Jerry: You also shouldn’t use a donut.

[RayChuang88]

And the Italian and Eastern European immigrants were heavily discriminated against, though not to the scale of what happened to the Irish that escaped the Great Potato Famine of the 1840's (that group of Irish immigrants couldn't speak English, let alone literate in even Irish Gaelic). Indeed, the very fact one Thomas Edison went after Jewish filmmakers and movie theater operators at beginning of the 20th Century in New York City was why just about every major Hollywood studio founded between 1910 to 1925 were all founded by people of Jewish descent.

But getting back on topic, pizza became popular nationally first. It wasn't until the 1970's that bagels started to become nationally well-known.

[surrey]

Being a native New Yorker. I love them both but if I had to choose give me a bagel with cream cheese and lox.

[Vendome]

Best Bagels are at Eli’s Bread Factory, uptown.

[dp0622]

My grandfather would tell me of fierce battles between the two with bagels and pizza flying like missiles through the air.

didn’t matter...pepperoni, sausage, eggplant would be used, and on the other side salt, onion and even sesame.

it was carnage :)

[kearnyirish2]

Pizza all the way; I’ve been around both all my life, but you can just do more with pizza (in terms of toppings - sausage, onions, garlic, red pepper, the list is endless). We still have a lot of family-owned pizzerias (about a dozen miles west of NYC), and they top any other kind.

Best bagel: Toasted garlic bagel covered with butter with sausage patties...

[StoneWall Brigade]

I’ll gladly take New York Style, Pizza.

[lee martell]

Bagels (Poppy Seed!) are great snacks.
Pizza’s (Ground Beef, Canadian Bacon,Green Bell Pepper,Onion& a Spot of Cheese) are great meals.