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To: donozark

In a few years they will likely receive T-14s, as the upgraded 80 & 90s will be pushing obsolescence by then.

The T-90 is a limited production tank currently undergoing real world battle testing. Any lessons learned will go into the T-14 family of vehicles.

Meanwhile, the US is falling so far behind in both tank and plane design that it will likely - at some point - be buying Russian made gear out of necessity.

Someone is likely to say that DJT will change that, but right now he cannot win the General, and even then there is such a horrible education system in the US that any future weapon designers will arrive on H1Vs - while Millennials flaunt their degrees in feminist studies and practice being CEOs in their parents basements.


10 posted on 02/10/2016 7:43:57 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Isn’t the tank more or less at an evolutionary dead end? Unless some radical weapons, armor, or propulsion technology comes around, there will be tweaks and upgrades.

As long as there is infantry to support and the need for mobile heavy weapons, I want some tanks around.


11 posted on 02/10/2016 7:55:15 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: PIF

“Meanwhile, the US is falling so far behind in both tank and plane design that it will likely - at some point - be buying Russian made gear out of necessity.”

That is ok, Russia is also replacing it’s oldest ICBMs, which are newer than our MM3, with new ones, building new ballistic missile submarines, new missiles, and new warheads while we coast along on our 1980s nuclear hardware. Not to mention we totally surrendered tactical nuclear superiority to Russia.

But they are our friends now... (gag)


14 posted on 02/10/2016 8:04:30 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: PIF
Russia did not like the turbine engine they put in the T-80. I found that interesting. Many have been replaced by a diesel engine.

Also, it is note worthy they considered placing a 152MM gun on the new Armata (T-14). I guess for now they've decided to stick with the 125MM. But they have vastly improved projectiles.

But thanks to Obama, it is of little concern to the masses...

16 posted on 02/10/2016 8:11:40 AM PST by donozark (Bernie Sanders:I was commie when commie wasn't koo-ol!)
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