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What is an unfair question? (Vanity)
Little House on Unaka | 1/27/16 | don-o

Posted on 01/27/2016 2:17:04 PM PST by don-o

Hannity just got on my last nerve (again). He's talking to a Trump son about "unfair questions". Hannity says he hears unfair questions from the media. He says he never asks unfair questions.

But, I never hear, "What exactly is an unfair question"?

What makes a question unfair?


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: unfair
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To: TigersEye

*LOL* Nah...Most people just say, “Hey, you old fart!!!”


61 posted on 01/27/2016 7:21:11 PM PST by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: TigersEye
But this is the point at issue. Others do twist or manipulate the generally accepted rules of fairness for advantage, or their own selfish gain, or to advance a particular agenda. This is a sad reflection on their own level of mental, emotional and spiritual maturity, but here we are more concerned about the effect of these actions.

Personally, I can deal with it. There are far more important things than "winning" these kinds of arguments. As far as I am concerned it is the nature of the forces we fight - but unfortunately, my own personal reaction is not the only thing affected. The kind of questioning we commonly see now biases political thinking, belittles Human dignity, trivialises serious issues, and, ultimately, discredits the entire political process. That is affecting other people, specifically the entire body politic, and for that reason, if nothing else, it should be opposed.

62 posted on 01/27/2016 11:24:31 PM PST by Vanders9
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To: TigersEye
The contention that life is unfair can be based on realistic empirical analysis. If you dont see "fairness" in the world, it therefore follows, logically, that any idea of "fairness" must be an artificial concept.

But it might equally well be the other way round. It could be that life IS fundamentally fair, but that by Human action (or inaction) we have collectively made it unfair. You may slur the "innate natural reaction" an emotional neurotic issue, but the fact is that it IS innate, and innate in all Humans, (unless, as you say, they are psychotic).

63 posted on 01/27/2016 11:38:29 PM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
But it might equally well be the other way round. It could be that life IS fundamentally fair,...

Actually that is very true. Ultimately everything we ever experience is the result of our own actions. That's karma. But when we try to isolate one event from another with an expectation that we should be treated fairly in it because it appears that we have no prior contact with the people or things in it we're going to be disappointed since karma can come to fruition from past events that have no apparent connection to the present circumstances. That expectation is neurotic and it is no slur to recognize that it is. It's just reality.

64 posted on 01/27/2016 11:53:28 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Vanders9
Others do twist or manipulate the generally accepted rules of fairness for advantage, or their own selfish gain, or to advance a particular agenda.

That is the reality of things. The rules are artifices so not everyone plays by them.

The kind of questioning we commonly see now biases political thinking, belittles Human dignity, trivialises serious issues, and, ultimately, discredits the entire political process. That is affecting other people, specifically the entire body politic, and for that reason, if nothing else, it should be opposed.

Having seen some political writings from previous centuries I don't think that is anything new. I take the risk of presuming that anyone who values truth would oppose intellectual dishonesty in politics and media.

65 posted on 01/27/2016 11:59:55 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye
If its true, then it seems axiomatic that we should strive for fairness, no matter how imperfect our efforts might be. As for karma..for sure our actions affect our experiences, but there's plenty of external agencies affecting us that we have no control over at all.

It doesnt really matter (to the original question) if fairness is fundamental or a Human construct, it is still a socially accepted code of behavior, which everyone in a debate, the debators, the questioners, the adjudicators and to some extent the audience, have all contracted into to. Therefore I think its perfectly reasonable for them to have an expectation of being treated according to those set rules.

66 posted on 01/28/2016 10:08:15 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: TigersEye
Having seen some political writings from previous centuries I don't think that is anything new.

Oh I'm quite sure you're right. Doesn't mean it shouldnt be opposed though.

The impression I get from history is that these things are cyclical in nature. We go through periods where reason, rationality and logic rule debates, and then it oscillates back to emotion and insult and abuse. We seem to be living in an age where we are racing to the bottom, as your tagline implies.

67 posted on 01/28/2016 10:13:56 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: don-o

Let’s get some discussion on the current buzz word.
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It depends upon the purpose of the interview. Presidential Debate questions are supposed to inform voters as to the policies or character of the candidate.

In a deposition on the other hand, we ask questions to try to build a foundation to prove a fact.

The problem with a multi candidate debate platform is not just the fairness of a question to each candidate, but also the distribution of “tough” questions among them. That is where the bias comes in to play.

Equally tough or equally softball for all or a mix that is equal across all candidates.

The Nuclear Triad question was a very unusual in its specificity compared to other questions presented by a moderator. On a standardized test, the question would have been thrown out.

It is the equivalent of asking a set of candidates “Who was Chester C. Arthur’s vice president?” knowing that only one of eight candidates is a presidential scholar. That would be considered a set up for the rest of the field.


68 posted on 01/28/2016 10:26:46 AM PST by GeaugaRepublican (Angry yes, mad, no. Finished with Conservatism Incorporated.)
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To: don-o
So, what did you say at your last confession?

Some people say that you cheat. What do you say to that?

Can you prove you don't hate mohammedans?

Everybody knows that immigration is an act of love. Why are you against love?

You have thirty seconds to answer.

69 posted on 01/28/2016 10:32:07 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Do those rise to the level of trick questions? They are absurd on the face.

There have also been some inane questions...fantasy football (that the dumbbell Bush actually fumbled out an answer).


70 posted on 01/28/2016 10:50:29 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: Boonie
The initial question to Trump was so personal though, that it couldn’t be asked to the other candidates.

I think you nailed it right there. Very good.

71 posted on 01/28/2016 10:52:45 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: don-o
Here's a couple of examples. It's the normal kind of question for someone from each party. Now you tell me what's obviously different in these two questions and why they would both be unfair.

1. Mr. Cruz, wasn't your wife over the top in securing you campaign loans, and then purposefully hiding them the way you did?

2. Secretary Clinton, weren't you thrilled when the maker of that scurrilous video was finally brought to justice?

72 posted on 01/28/2016 11:00:19 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: GeaugaRepublican; All
The problem with a multi candidate debate platform is not just the fairness of a question to each candidate, but also the distribution of “tough” questions among them.

This, as well, adds clarity.

To return to my OP, Hannity and the other talkers could really help if they would omit the 14th repetition of the same old, same old, and delve into such have we have here on this little thread.

73 posted on 01/28/2016 11:01:53 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: don-o

Heard from God lately?


74 posted on 01/28/2016 11:04:38 AM PST by Kudsman (Restore the Republic, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Lakeshark
Now you tell me what's obviously different in these two questions and why they would both be unfair.

I cannot do that until you and I have an agreed upon set of facts.

75 posted on 01/28/2016 11:05:48 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: don-o
Do you really think the MSM is interested in an agreed upon set of facts?

If you do, then your vanity is truly silly.

76 posted on 01/28/2016 11:08:50 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

I am too dumb to wrap my mind around what you are driving at. Sorry.

Please tell.


77 posted on 01/28/2016 11:15:38 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: don-o
When you tried to avoid an answer to my first question, it set up an itty bitty red flag. You could still try to answer that one, it's pretty clear some of the differences between the two questions.

When you feigned ignorance of my second question (nice dodge), I figured your vanity was silly, or perhaps even dishonest in its intent.

Enjoy the rest of your thread, and have a nice day.

78 posted on 01/28/2016 11:37:40 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
OK. I will try, laying aside the innuendo you put on me. I don't think your examples are very well formed. Or is that your point?

1. Mr. Cruz, wasn't your wife over the top in securing you campaign loans, and then purposefully hiding them the way you did?

1. "Over the top" is a vague, undefined term.
2. Presumes facts not in evidence.

2. Secretary Clinton, weren't you thrilled when the maker of that scurrilous video was finally brought to justice?

The language is clunky, but I see no unfairness.

Sec Clinton, the maker of a video that you described as "scurrilous" has been brought to justice. Are you pleased at this outcome?

79 posted on 01/28/2016 11:50:46 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: Lakeshark
Sec Clinton, the maker of a video that you described as "scurrilous" has been brought to justice. Are you pleased at this outcome?

Of course, I am assuming that there was actual illegality involved. That is why I asked for a set of facts

80 posted on 01/28/2016 12:27:28 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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