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1 posted on 01/19/2016 10:46:33 AM PST by conservativejoy
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Cruz is losing Iowa. Just look at his face. It tells.


2 posted on 01/19/2016 10:50:47 AM PST by McGruff (Born In The USA...Born In The USA)
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3 posted on 01/19/2016 10:50:57 AM PST by Enlightened1
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Let’s not forget that Trump has called for amnesty even while declaring he’d built the border wall. Trump has been pretty crystal clear in his support for amnesty.
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Lying sack of crap.


4 posted on 01/19/2016 10:53:34 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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"If you didn't stand up and fight amnesty, when the stakes were live or die, do we lose this permanently or do we win, I would suggest as voters you have reasons to doubt the credibility of the promises of a political candidate who discovers the issue after he announces for president"

How long is it going to take any of them to discover this issue?

I believe it is true that the issue of birth-right citizenship and ILLEGAL immigrants has not been decided..

all that's documented are comments by justices (obiter dictum) which had no bearing on the issue being decided.

Children born to foreigners owing unswerving loyalty to a foreign sovereignty (diplomats for example) are in fact excluded already.

What's the big deal about applying that to ILLEGAL aliens? Besides children born of Americans in foreign countries are American citizens.

5 posted on 01/19/2016 10:54:51 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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It’s so interesting to see a thread titled;

“Cruz Hits Trump On Amnesty, Liberal Values”

...on the FR front page with this one;

Barney Frank Praises Ted Cruz For Position On Gay Marriage
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3385669/posts


6 posted on 01/19/2016 10:56:06 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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I wonder how Cruz will explain away all those videos and interviews and statements that say the opposite of what he now maintains on immigration, amnesty, deportation.


7 posted on 01/19/2016 10:57:25 AM PST by odawg
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Sounds like Cruz has gone DTS and is mirroring the nasty Cruzers here on FR.

I guess that’s what happens when you’re losing.


9 posted on 01/19/2016 10:58:15 AM PST by Pravious
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What a slimy little weasel.


14 posted on 01/19/2016 11:04:52 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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How pathetic. Cruz largely avoided immigration issues (other than favoring large increases in legal immigration) from his March 23rd announcement until Trump entered the race in late June and made immigration a top issue.

Cruz is performing some of his most impressive flip/flops ever trying to catch up and pretend that he’s tough on illegal immigration.


16 posted on 01/19/2016 11:06:55 AM PST by Will88
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17 posted on 01/19/2016 11:08:15 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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New York values.


21 posted on 01/19/2016 12:11:15 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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It is always the typical technique of the smear: Dig up all the stuff from someone’s past and lie like hell about it. People forget that there is a difference from the past to the now. The now is what you have learned from the past to change for the better.


22 posted on 01/19/2016 12:14:10 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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Let’s not forget that Trump has called for amnesty even while declaring he’d built the border wall. Trump has been pretty crystal clear in his support for amnesty.

Very true, and thank you for pointing this out.

Trump's "send them back and let them in" policy is essentially the "touchback" provision of the 2007 amnesty bill. His new nickname should be Touchback Trump.

As recently as August, Trump was taking pro-amnesty stands.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/259589/donald-trump-endorses-amnesty-illegal-aliens-daniel-greenfield

"Now, a lot of these people are helping us, whether it's the grapes, or whether it's jobs, and sometimes it's jobs, in all fairness, I love our country, but sometimes it's jobs that a citizen of the United States doesn't want to do. I mean, there are jobs that a lot of people don't want to do. I want to move them out, and we're going to move them back in. [i.e., touchback]

"I mean, a lot of people don't understand that, but the DREAMers, it’s a tough situation, we're going to do something, and one of the things we’re going to do is expedite -- when somebody's terrific, we want them back here.

"I have to tell you: Some of these people have been here, they've done a good job. You know, in some cases, sadly, they've been living under the shadows. ... If somebody's been outstanding, we try and work something out.”

[The article continues] This is in line with what CNN's Chris Moody reported Trump saying during a press conference in Chicago at the end of June. When asked what he would do about the illegal immigrants already residing in the country once the border was secured, Trump replied, "give them a path," according to Moody.

http://liberteanow.us/2015/07/14/2601/

Trump: You have to give them a path. You have 20 million, 30 million, nobody knows what it is. ... I actually heard you probably have 30 million. You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422351/donald-trump-immigration-amnesty-build-wall

Asked about his immigration ideas on CNN, Trump was a mess, beginning with the old "jobs Americans won’t do" canard favored by open-borders proponents (a canard because it always leaves out the relevant qualifier: "at current wages"), then suggesting that we should deport the millions of illegals who are already here only to turn around and bring them back ("I want to move them out, and we're going to move them back in, and let them be legal.") This process would include those brought here as young children, who will be deported and recycled based on the criterion of whether they are -- Trump's word -- "terrific." What might constitute a federal terrificness standard remains unclear. "We’re going to do something," Trump said.

[The article continues] Deporting some 11 million illegals who have for many years evaded deportation only to reimport them under an expedited legal immigration system, the contours of which currently are undefined, and then granting them some sort of permanent legal status is simply another variation on amnesty, and a complicated, expensive, and thick-headed version of amnesty at that. Like the proposed reform program of 2007, which would have purportedly required illegals to be present in their country of origin when applying for legal status, this isn’t just amnesty -- it’s also amnesty-laundering.

24 posted on 01/19/2016 12:26:58 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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, noting donations he's made to Democrats over the years, including $50,000 in 2010

Dumb. They have to keep bringing up old news. He hasn't given anything to Dems in at least the last 5 years. Zero. Zilch. Despite the political repercussions.

41 posted on 01/20/2016 1:12:11 PM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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