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Trump: Apple should build 'their damn things' in US
CNBC ^ | January 19, 2016 | Jessica Hartogs

Posted on 01/19/2016 9:47:28 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump warned that he would force Apple, the U.S.'s most profitable company, to manufacture all of its products in the U.S. if he is elected president in November 2016.

Technology blog Gizmodo reports that during a speech at Liberty University in Virginia late Monday, the frontrunner for the GOP ticket said, "We're going to get Apple to build their damn computers and things in this country instead of in other countries."

Apple currently only manufactures its Mac Pro computers in the U.S., while most of its other products, including the iPhone, are made in China.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/19/trump-apple-should-build-their-damn-things-in-us.html

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To: American in Israel

You exaggerating I cut my own firewood all the time and I have sold timber to lumber mills.. There is no govt interference at all except for replanting requirements and most people ignore those.


61 posted on 01/19/2016 11:50:02 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Try the Sierras in California. 15 years ago it was easy to selectively timber private lands for profit, the home owner made money, the little timber guy made money the mill made money and the forest was thinned for fire safety. Now the environmental impact statement costs as much as the profit, the mills shut down and the forest is in horrible condition.

I know of what I speak. And by the way, check the laws, you are a felon. I have read the average citizen commits around three felony's a month now, none of which they are aware of.

Its called Fascism.

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Ayn Rand

62 posted on 01/19/2016 11:59:12 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

So the timber broker I deal with is a felon? LOL


63 posted on 01/19/2016 12:05:03 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

May I guess that your tag name, central_va means you are not dealing with california laws?

And if you do not replant, my guess is you might be interested to see just how lightly the EPA takes that.

It is not a laughing matter. Denigrate me all you wish, that felony can be held against you if they wish. If they go all EPA on you you will loose your house and your freedom.

The loss of freedom is my point by the way. America has been regulated to death, not legislated to death.


64 posted on 01/19/2016 1:02:35 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: central_va

Oh, lookie here, if Apple moved iPhone production to US, they would have to pay double wages, even in the cheapest states:

“To keep things simple, let’s just look at the wages of workers tasked with assembling an iPhone. A worker at Chinese manufacturing giant Foxconn gets paid roughly $400 a month before overtime, according to the New York Times.

Now assume Apple goes the economic route and places a manufacturing plant in Wyoming or Georgia, which happen to have the country’s lowest minimum wage at $5.15 an hour. Working eight hours a day, five days a week, a US worker would make $824 a month, or more than double the Chinese worker.”

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‘”Twice as much is conservative,” Carolina Milanesi, an analyst at Kantar Worldpanel, said about the price hike of an iPhone if it were manufactured in the US.’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3386025/posts


65 posted on 01/20/2016 8:07:36 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Where did you go to business school? You have to look at the man hour per phone. Forget where it is made. If it takes one man hour to build then set a price for that ONE man hour.


66 posted on 01/20/2016 8:13:11 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Crusher138

Would YOU work for $306~$400 a month in the US, doing what YOU do now?

Just asking that question says where you stand on the issue, and where your allegiances lie.


67 posted on 01/20/2016 8:32:29 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: central_va

“Where did you go to business school?”

I should ask you the same. You seem to think that because wages double here, the productivity of the workers would magically double as well?

Otherwise, looking at “man-hours” per phone is pointless.


68 posted on 01/20/2016 8:49:00 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

It takes the same man hours to build the iphone in the USA as it does in China. Perhaps less if the factory is new an more automated. You’re an economically ignorant.


69 posted on 01/20/2016 9:02:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: factoryrat

I am a small business owner. Don’t talk to me about working for nothing.

Seriously, depending on whose numbers you use, cost of living in the US is somewhere between 60% and 150% higher than in China. Let’s split the difference and say 100% higher. That puts the pay at more like $800 a month in our economy.

Now they get free room and board on top of that, not to mention access to swimming pools, gym equipment, internet cafes and retail shopping. Since the living arrangements are much like college dorms, I will use those prices for the basis of comparison.

Room and board at the University of New Mexico is $8,580 a year (which is pretty cheap for colleges). That brings the annual total up to about $18,180 in comparable US pay. I work it out to be somewhere around $8.75 an hour.

Now most of these workers are college aged young people working their first job. Is it great pay? No. Is it comparable to entry level jobs in the US? Yep.

Would I work for that much? Depends on what my options were and how hard the work is. I know my 19 year old son would jump at the chance to work for $18,000 a year. My 23 year old son is a teacher earning $24,000 a year.

It isn’t as bad as it is made out to be.


70 posted on 01/20/2016 9:36:10 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Crusher138

Okay? You do know that the majority of businesses in china are owned/backed/financed/controlled by their communist government, right?

So is that what you’re advocating for US small business? Having the government tell YOU that you have to house, clothe, feed, train, and lord over your employees? We used to have that system here in the US, it was called “slavery” or “indentured servitude”.

We don’t do that anymore, but china still does, which is why they kick our asses on labor rates.


71 posted on 01/20/2016 9:49:49 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

1. You need to look at how much our government DOES tell our businesses what they can and can’t do with their employees. When you argue with the Chinese that their businesses are government financed, they argue back that the SBA in the US finances millions of businesses and that their regulation of businesses isn’t any worse than ours. They aren’t far wrong.

2. Living in the Foxconn dorms is optional. Thing is that transportation in China isn’t cheap and living arrangements near the factory aren’t cheap, so Foxconn offers the dorms in lieu of paying their people more.


72 posted on 01/20/2016 10:15:26 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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