I am sincerely confused with your post: HE was (Trump?) born as a British citizen? How?
My grandmother was English and naturalized as a US citizen before my mom was born, and so my mother had NO claim to British citizenship, as her mother had lost hers when she became a naturalized US citizen. The UK doesn’t grant dual citizenship in perpetuity, merely because you have British ancestors. When my grandmother and Trump’s mother became US citizens, they gave up their rights to British citizenship. Their children also lost that claim.
I like Trump over Cruz (but certainly don’t hate Cruz, and would happily vote for him), and I don’t necessarily think that the ability to claim dual citizenship makes someone ineligible to run fro president.
That said: The BC I’d be interested in seeing is Ted Cruz’s US birth certificate. When was that issued? Showing us his Canadian BC and his mom’s US BC is all fine and good, but the real question would be when did Cruz become a US citizen officially? The ability to get it when he was born (living in Canada or not) would have happened when he was born, I suspect, but when did his parents apply for it?
For the record, I have a son who is eligible for a dual citizenship, but we never applied for it. He has no legal claim to the second country unless I went through the process of getting the second country to acknowledge that he could get it if he made some effort. So, he isn’t a dual citizen.
Countries don’t waste their time chasing after babies who might have a claim to their citizenship, and send the papers in the mail to fill out, like credit card applications. If you want to get your citizenship from a country besides that which you were born in, you must make the effort to do it.
I am sincerely confused with your post: HE was (Trump?) born as a British citizen? How?
He inherited it as a matter of right from his British national mother.
My grandmother was English and naturalized as a US citizen before my mom was born, and so my mother had NO claim to British citizenship, as her mother had lost hers when she became a naturalized US citizen.
You may be wrong about that. Do you know whether or not your grandmother renounced her British Nationality directly to the British Home Office? No other renunciation, including any renunciation made to US officials is recognized by Britain.
Reference:
Renunciation and resumption of British nationality
All categories of British nationality can be renounced by a declaration made to the Home Secretary. A person ceases to be a British national on the date the Home Secretary registers the declaration of renunciation. If a declaration is registered in the expectation of acquiring another citizenship but one is not acquired within six months of the registration, it does not take effect and the person remains a British national.
Renunciations made to other authorities (such as the general renunciation made as part of the US naturalization ceremony) are not recognized by the UK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law
The UK doesn't grant dual citizenship in perpetuity, merely because you have British ancestors. When my grandmother and Trump's mother became US citizens, they gave up their rights to British citizenship. Their children also lost that claim.
Maybe. Maybe not. It all depends on whether your grandmother made a renunciation in a form and manner recognized by the British authorities.
If all she did was attend a swearing in ceremony in the US and sign renunciation papers here, they would have had no effect whatsoever in Britain.
As for whether British nationality might or might not have been bequeathed to you , I can't say. I simply don't know how many generations British law contemplates. It might depend on whether your mother is still alive. But you may very well have a British passport waiting for you for the asking.
I like Trump over Cruz (but certainly don't hate Cruz, and would happily vote for him), and I don't necessarily think that the ability to claim dual citizenship makes someone ineligible to run for president.
It would be very unfair to hold something against a US citizen that he has no control over and may not even realize.
That said: The BC I'd be interested in seeing is Ted Cruz's US birth certificate. When was that issued? Showing us his Canadian BC and his mom's US BC is all fine and good, but the real question would be when did Cruz become a US citizen officially? The ability to get it when he was born (living in Canada or not) would have happened when he was born, I suspect, but when did his parents apply for it?
I doubt you'll ever see a US Birth Certificate for Ted Cruz. He was born in Canada, as you know, so he has a Canadian birth certificate. Birth certificates are issued by the jurisdiction where a person is born and nowhere else. Ted Cruz officially became a US Citizen on the date of his birth, December 22, 1970. He was born a US citizen and no paperwork is necessary. Ted Cruz's parent(s) didn't need to apply for anything. He's not a naturalized citizen.
For the record, I have a son who is eligible for a dual citizenship, but we never applied for it. He has no legal claim to the second country unless I went through the process of getting the second country to acknowledge that he could get it if he made some effort. So, he isn't a dual citizen.
Normally citizenship by birth is granted by the operation of law and you don't need to apply for it. You might apply for a passport or a national registration card, but not for the citizenship itself. That's usually already there whether one asks for it or not. but I have no idea about this case as I don't know the circumstance or the country. every country is entitled to its own laws and procedures.
Countries don't waste their time chasing after babies who might have a claim to their citizenship, and send the papers in the mail to fill out, like credit card applications. If you want to get your citizenship from a country besides that which you were born in, you must make the effort to do it.
I understand what you are saying here, and to a degree I concur. But, when you say "If you want to get your citizenship from a country besides that which you were born in, you must make the effort to do it," you are not speaking accurately. In almost every case, you are not "getting your citizenship," you are getting your citizenship confirmed. Normally, the citizenship is already there.
Problems with dual citizenship normally don't arise unless the individual puts himself or herself into the foreign jurisdiction which may understand that it can make a claim against the person. Folks have been drafted into military service in this situation, and sometimes jailed as in the case of some American citizens claimed by Iran. If a dual citizen and problems are to be avoided, it's always best to renounce the citizenship according to the law of the claiming nation, if possible. Otherwise, stay out of their jurisdiction.