Agree completely
Posted on 01/04/2016 8:08:47 PM PST by Perdogg
The Chargers made it official Monday night.
The AFC West franchise wants out of San Diego, its home since 1961.
The Chargers, nearly seven months after breaking off negotiations with San Diego city and county officials, formally submitted relocation documents with the NFL on Monday, the first day of the league’s window for franchises to apply to move.
The Rams and Raiders also applied for relocation Monday night, setting up a three-way race for no more than two spots in the Los Angeles-Orange County market that will likely be decided by a vote of the league’s owners next week in Houston.
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Apparently the shelf life of a stadium is 25 years nowdays.
I don’t think the owners want a conference realignment. Raiders and Chargers are both historic AFC teams.
Rams owner already owns the property.
I say Rams and Chargers.
I don’t particularly want the Raiders back, but it’s not true that attendance in Oakland has been great since the team’s return there. Recent years have seen the smallest crowds since the early AFL days.
Would love to see the Chargers make the move. Keep the Rams in St Louis. And if the Raiders want to move send them to Portland Oregon.
That’s Bob Hope’s old team.
I agree, but that’s what the Raiders and Chargers are asking for. The assumption is that one of them would switch to the NFC, possibly with the Cardinals. There are some who think the Rams won’t be allowed to go, or that the NFL will force the Raiders to share with the Rams, or that the Chargers might share with the Rams, but one option that is not on the table is for the Raiders to take the Carson project, that basically belongs to the Chargers, and go by themselves.
Cleveland could use an NFL team. Some day...
We can only dream that the Jags would move to LA, or anywhere!
New rules in the NFL. Once a team leaves a city, the colors, uniforms, and nickname and logo must stay in that city. So No more Raiders, Chargers, or Rams.
Rubio used to play pro football?
Amazing what you learn on FR.
Agree completely
” It’s Ancient Rome with a little less blood. Serves the same societal purpose too, i.e., distract the masses from their rulers treachery, decadence, and opulence.”
Bread, and this is the circus for tens of millions.
are the Chargers in am old stadium,
and the city won’t pay-up for a new one?
Fairly old stadium with upgrades along the way, yes they want a new one. My father is tax paying San Diego resident, he says f them let them go.
If the Jaguars owner could move he’d go to STL. He’s from that area.
nfl fee to FILE an application to move is $550 million.
league just got $1.65 billion in filing fees. the increase in franchise value in L.A. vs oakland/st.louis/must be very substantial to justify a filing fee that could basically build a new stadium.
kinda pisses me off that these franchises can pony up half a bill for an application to move, but wont pay to renovate their stadiums.
Wow, really? I was hoping, if the Chargers left, they would be called the So Cal Chargers, so they would still be my ‘home’ team.
The NFL is making a big mistake to allow these moves willy-nilly. I can see letting the Rams move back--they only left because the owner wanted to bring football back to her home town. I still say LA Rams. To a lesser extent, I can see letting the Raiders go back, they were there for a long time and developed a sizable following, although I wouldn't allow it myself, it is understandable. But to let the Chargers leave just because the owners want to increase the value of a franchise they bought for $50 million because it was a small market franchise, and destroy the relationship they have created with millions of fans is just wrong. It betrays a failure to understand what the product they are producing is.
The "product" that the NFL creates is a 7 months long reality TV series pitting teams and cities against each other. To create the drama, you require tens of thousands of screaming fans who buy into the notion that the team in their city represents them and their community. That it is not the uniform they are rooting for, as Seinfeld famously put it. Those fans are a lifelong labor of love. Their role is combined with the seasonal input of players and coaches. Their turnover is huge year over year, but for one season, they are all together, and their results become part of the drama that is the product.
If you take the cities and fans out of it, if it's not New England vs. The Giants, or San Diego v. Oakland, with 55 years of history in that game, then the games become uniforms, the fans become a backdrop like the fake fans at fake sports like the X-games. That will diminish the product that the NFL creates, and aid to the decrease in viewership and revenues that may have already started. The NFL is already fighting headwinds from the liberal side of the country, who don't like manliness to begin with. Alienating the fan base that still likes the product is not a good idea.
So, expansion into the LA market may be a good idea from a business standpoint. It makes no sense to do that expansion at the expense of longstanding franchises.
The idea that has been floated by the Raiders and Chargers is that the Cardinals would move to the AFC west, and the Raiders would move to the NFC west, creating a rivalry with the 49ers. In this scenario, the Rams stay in St. Louis. Stupid, I know, but it is how the Chargers are trying to sell the move. They are desperate to increase the value of the franchise and then sell the team before the old man dies and they are hit with estate taxes.
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