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Posted on 01/01/2016 1:35:20 PM PST by jstaff

At last night's New Year's Eve gathering I got into a discussion over the poll that showed the Pope tied with Donald Trump for the second most admired person.

The Trump supporters were wildly happy about him being compared to a person of such high position. They felt it put in him into an almost exalted status and really reinforced their support.

The Catholics present, all very conservative, were saddened almost to the point of embarrassment that their leader, the very top person of the entire Catholic church couldn't get more votes than a NYC reality TV star. They felt it said a lot about his liberal, populist positions and how they undermined so many of the Church's traditional positions.

The discussion among the Catholics only had to be abandoned, possibly due to some social drinking. We never did come to a consensus on whether Trump should be more embarrassed by being compared to such a lefty, or the Pope should be more embarrassed by being compared to a trash talking TV personality.


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1 posted on 01/01/2016 1:35:20 PM PST by jstaff
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Social Justice......Accept Refugees.......Islam and Christianity Worship The Same God........Jews Do Not Jesus.........Climate Change........Economic Equality.........Climate Change..........Divide Jerusalem.........Climate Change.....New World Order........

2 posted on 01/01/2016 1:42:16 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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You should have just had another drink.


3 posted on 01/01/2016 1:44:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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We never did come to a consensus on whether Trump should be more embarrassed by being compared to such a lefty, or the Pope should be more embarrassed by being compared to a trash talking TV personality.

What does it matter if you think so little of both of them?

4 posted on 01/01/2016 1:47:21 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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>>We never did come to a consensus on whether Trump should be more embarrassed by being compared to such a lefty, or the Pope should be more embarrassed by being compared to a trash talking TV personality.

The author should try READING and they would find that Trump did things other than being a “TV personality”.

As a Presbyterian, Trump knows that the Pope is just a man and a sinner and is not special. But this Pope is obviously a serious South American Leftist of the worst kind. And Trump did build large buildings with his name on them. Not really the life’s work of the typical “TV Personality”.


5 posted on 01/01/2016 1:51:24 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Oh, I did. A couple more, in fact.


6 posted on 01/01/2016 1:52:06 PM PST by jstaff
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It's a quagmire being Catholic just now. How do we uphold our faith in the one true
Church, while a troubling person is head? Of course our Catholic faith remains
untarnished, as Holy Mother Church remains untarnished. But in our discussions with
those on the outside, there simply is no defense of the politicization of the papacy;
it is a scandal.
7 posted on 01/01/2016 1:53:29 PM PST by jobim
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As a Presbyterian, Trump knows that the Pope is just a man and a sinner and is not special.

This statement implies that somebody believes the Pope is not a man and is not a sinner. Who do you think believes that?

8 posted on 01/01/2016 1:56:03 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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The ‘poll’ is little more than a name recognition/recall exercise among the lazy and ignorant, as Hillary’s annual appearance on the female side testifies. It is an excuse for Gallup to advertise its brand and to drum up poll subscriptions from a dwindling number of newspapers. Both the newspapers and the craven, cowardly Gallup should be shuttered.


9 posted on 01/01/2016 2:01:42 PM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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>>This statement implies that somebody believes the Pope is not a man and is not a sinner. Who do you think believes that?

Focus on the “special” part of my comment. There is no “Vicar of Jesus Christ”. That’s a claim of being pretty special.


10 posted on 01/01/2016 2:05:31 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Is the Pope Catholic?...seriously, is he?


11 posted on 01/01/2016 2:07:01 PM PST by uncitizen (False flag mass shootings are Americas Reichstag Fire)
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I agree, and the venue for the discussion was appropriate. A few friends, celebrating excessively, trying to stay awake till midnight. The poll was given just the recognition it deserved, a semi-inebriated thrashing.

Happy New Year.


12 posted on 01/01/2016 2:08:38 PM PST by jstaff
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Is this Pope Catholic?
13 posted on 01/01/2016 2:24:52 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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He’s as Catholic as POTUS is American.

Interesting times we find ourselves in.


14 posted on 01/01/2016 2:27:01 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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Some popes like JPII cross over into universal respect. Others like this one only appeal to those inside that one branch of Christianity.


15 posted on 01/01/2016 2:37:04 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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I find this ridiculous. NO Catholic I know could care less about who is named the most popular person. Pure secular culture nonsense. Period.


16 posted on 01/01/2016 2:53:02 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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How do we uphold our faith in the one true
Church, while a troubling person is head?

__________________________

The same way the great Saints in the past did so because...we are ALL called to be saints.


17 posted on 01/01/2016 2:54:16 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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I wondered how long before this thread would get hit by Catholics coming to bat for their Marxist Pope. Its here for all to see. And on the most conservative forum on the web no less.


18 posted on 01/01/2016 3:42:36 PM PST by sasportas
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the catholic government trumps the American and all other governents....... it’s in the book somewhere


19 posted on 01/01/2016 3:57:46 PM PST by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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I agree, but at the same time, the media is only reporting what the pope says when it suits their agenda, and they are not above a ridiculous headline that has nothing to do with what he says. Of course he should shut up about economics and global warming, subjects he knows next to nothing about. There was a post the other day that ‘Pope says athiests may go to heaven. In reality he said something to the order that God’s mercy was infinite and that non believers should obey their conscience. It has always been the Church’s teaching that they don’t know who is going to heaven, that is God’s domain. The headline was quite literally, bullshit.


20 posted on 01/01/2016 4:04:44 PM PST by nobamanomore
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