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To: SC_Pete

I do not see Article V being a solution in this former Republic. I only see it as establishing justification for what must be done.

The Constitution has been nullified and abolished by default at the hands of BOTH Political parties.

A Lawless government IS NEVER going to submit to restraints put on it by any efforts we make without bloodshed. Get that truth through your skull.

An Article V effort only works in a civil society that is grounded in morality and respects the Rule of Law. We no longer have a civil society. We have a corrupt, abased, dependent, lethargic and wicked society. The current government and half the population are advocating the abolishment of the Constitution and rights they disagree with. The wicked will not submit to righteousness, they will defy and subvert it and declare it to be evil.

Imposing law upon the lawless will require that which few to none are willing to risk, so all the talk of Article V saving us is as useless as hanging all your hopes on a single politician to high office to do the same.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Only a moral and religious people are capable of freedom.

We are no longer those people.

We have become a minority.

Truth hurts, but there it is. If you do not understand exactly what you are dealing with in terms of the enemy and the battle space in front of you - nothing you attempt is going to succeed. It will be used against you and you will lose.


35 posted on 12/23/2015 11:47:20 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

We are on the same team. But I am going to hope for the best—but prepare for the worst. I look forward to reading your posts as we go forward! Thanks.


36 posted on 12/23/2015 12:27:45 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: INVAR

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37 posted on 12/23/2015 12:36:14 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: INVAR

What you describe in a morally adrift America is unfortunately true, and the result of this, ultimately produces A hopelessly corrupted Democratic Republic.

We were warned about this by both John Adams and Benjamin Franklin; that our Constitution and Republic will work only for an honest moral people, in order to keep Them. It is only a matter of judgement If we have fallen beyond the point of recovery.

In the Declaration Jefferson listed 27 non negotiable grievances that lead to absolute tyranny. Those grievances showed the world our cause for just Christian Rebellion against the denial of our God ordained Natural Rights by the British Empire.

The Founders understood the nature of fallen mankind; and did all they could to allow for the people to change their system of government, by force if necessary, if it had become corrupted and fallen into Tyranny. This is why we make our Military Oath to “ protect and Defend (first) the Constitution, against foes;forigen and domestic”.

It is why Thomas Jefferson Wrote: “ The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants”; and in the Declaration, “ it is their(the People) right, it is their duty,to throw off such government,and provide new Guards for their future security.”.

These are tools and guidelines our Forefathers gave us to deal with a government that has take more power than God has ordained from them, and has removed from us our God given Rights. We are told this will happen; and when it does we must pledge our very “Lives, Fortunes, and SACRED Honor to restore it.

I believe we are close to this point fellow citizens; but still have a realistic chance to use the tools left to us in this next Presidential election to use the electoral system, but we must support and fight with all we have and all that we are to elect those committed to Consitutional values, and the courage to stand and FIGHT the threats and temptations to corrupt him. We need a good and brave person, no other will do. This could be our best last chance.

We must expend every chance we have been given to make the system given to us by those who have gone before. Countless rows of white crosses and the blood of a million soldiers from Bunker hill to Shiloh and Ramadi require it of us.

Failing this; we the People of the United States of America, will show the world again that we have not forgotten how to risk it all, and pledge “our Lives our Fortuns, and our Sacred Honor”to restore our Beloved Country to it’s Sacred values.


39 posted on 12/24/2015 1:01:40 PM PST by windhover (DOWN)
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