I am the adoptive mother of four and in the states my children were from bio Dad had to sign off.
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That said, my personal opinion is that fathers should have no rights unless married to mom. Otherwise, leave it zipped.
>>That said, my personal opinion is that fathers should have no rights unless married to mom. Otherwise, leave it zipped.<<
Do you also agree that said that he doesn’t have to pay child support unless he is married?
..That said, my personal opinion is that fathers should have no rights unless married to mom. Otherwise, leave it zipped...
uh no rights just obligations, is that ok with you? what about mama, should she have kept her dress on, zipped or otherwise.
Until it comes to child support, then they have “responsibilities.”
Bullfeathers.
Rights and responsibility go hand in hand. No rights - no responsibility.
(My opinion is that they SHOULD have both - rights and responsibilities)
No rights means no child support...and you can damned well bet if he signed first and she changed her mind he’d be paying support till the child was 18.
Maybe you should just say unmarried parents automatically lose their rights and the children go to the State. That way both genders are treated equally.
I’m with you...no different than her going to a sperm bank. Oh well.
WOW! You are messed up there! Did you actually use a brain cell before posting that!?
Stuff like that is why movements like MGTOW and the Mens Rights Movement exist.
Because these screwed-up laws that take away the father’s rights while making him legally liable for 18 years of child support or face jail if SHE says so, and the white knight simps that constantly side with the female out of some misguided pity.
The west wants to reverse declining birth rates had better reform these laws or men will simply drop out of this scam.
I’m with chicken soup, actually. If the dad won’t marry the mom, she does truly have the responsibility alone, for all practical purposes. Marriage is legal security for both parties. ‘Planning to stay together’ is not. imho. My son is in the same situation, so I have also seen this close-up and personal. If his ‘wife’ left him bc he would not commit, some of the blame would be squarely on his shoulders.
The only rational response to that, and the one one hundred percent of ethical people share as a corollary - is that mothers should have no right to economic support from the father unless married.
Ever.
Oh, really?! No rights for the father, but if the mother wants to keep the baby, he has to pay child-support. Damned if he does and damned if he don’t. How liberal of you. I think you’re in the wrong forum. Why not just go over to HuffPo where you will fit right in with all the FemiNAZIs?
Then why should SHE have any rights? Her unmarried self didn't stay zipped either. Women now have sole choice of where the baby goes even past the abortion stage?