XM-177/CAR-15,what's old is new again... 
The M16 in 7.62 was still being used in Iraq and Afgahanistan because it has a lot more stopping power than the M4. Explain how the M16 is outdated and useless when our troops are being hammered by the Ak-47 and Ak-74.
The M-16A1 served us well in Vietnam, a brilliantly designed and effective weapon.
The transition to the M-4 makes sense.
I'll believe it when I see it.
XM-177/CAR-15,what's old is new again... Seems to me that the M4 is certainly preferable in the confines of an urban or even jungle environment. If I were in the open spaces of a desert or a prairie I want something with a longer barrel than a carbine. Something with a bit more range. An M16 if it has to be 5.56 but preferably a good .308/7.62 like an M14 or an AR-10. I personally always prefer the feel of a good .30 caliber rifle. An M1A Scout is pretty hard to beat.
I remember back in 1970 when I entered basic training at Ft Jackson SC, our unit was the first to get the new M16A1.
This is a big mistake. The Marines are going 100% with a short range carbine? Do they really think all future fighting will be short range? This move almost guarantees it won’t. They need to study history a little closer. Recent history even. Like when the Russians were fighing in Afghanistan. What was the most feared weapon? Why it was the half century old SMLE in the hands of rifleman that could hit them at 800 meters whereas the Russians nice compact AK/47/74 were next to useless at those ranges.
Here's the answer. The M-16 is too big for the women that the military plans to put on the front lines.
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IF ... the M16, M16A1, and M4 are an outdated design, then why in the world is everybody who loves this ‘frame design’, clamoring to ensure they have at least one in their lineup of personal firearms?
I am one of those odd ducks. I had my hands on one for three years in SouthEast Asia, and do NOT want to soil my hands, by holding one of that frame design series, ever.
For the sake of argument, i have had bolt-action rifles in the past, too.
I will be more than satisfied with a good ol’ cowboy lever action, in either any of the rifle or revolver caliber chamberings.
I’ve sworn off being an octopus with firearm in one tentacle, and magazines in the others, tossing them in or out with the rapidity so many semi-automatic gun instructors have demonstrated as ‘normal’.
Yeah, but can a girl heft it?
Previous Commandant was General JOSEPH Dunford USMC.
1950s technology, for one...
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