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To: jwalsh07
There is obviously a need for female operators in certain situations so I applaud any woman who can get through Ranger School.

It has been asserted on another thread that the Army gave both women four months to shirk their normal duties and simply train for this school. The army does not do this for male soldiers.

It was also asserted that both women carried Female Soldiers during the test rather than Male Soldiers.

There were a lot of other assertions about how the test was rigged to allow two females to pass it rather than to maintain the level of difficulty through which the males have to prevail.

I don't know if the above assertions are true, but considering how the Navy leapfrogged Karen Hultgreen over more qualified men, and then let her kill herself because her actual capabilities were not up to the task, I find it entirely plausible that this "Female Rangers" is nothing but another Potemkin village by the Social Engineering fool at the Top of the Chain of Command.

I also think we will not officially hear anything different because all those other soldiers want to keep their jobs and dare not say differently.

13 posted on 08/31/2015 11:24:09 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

I think the jury has to be out until we hear from the men who went through the course with the women officers.

I think there are a few, a very few, women who are capable of meeting the same criteria as the men.

When the Virginia Military Institute was required by the Supreme Court (per Ginsburg, J) to admit women, VMI made a real point of not changing the standards for the women. The freshman system, the “Ratline” was not significantly changed. They even kept a lot of the traditional language that might be seen as not politically correct. The term “Brother Rat” applies to both sexes. The VMI women still have to pass the men’s PT test. Of course, they have a lot fewer women than the federal service academies, which did significantly change (lower) the physical standards, and reduce the first year hazing traditions when women were admitted.


16 posted on 08/31/2015 11:38:10 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Persae Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“I find it entirely plausible that this “Female Rangers” is nothing but another Potemkin village by the Social Engineering fool at the Top of the Chain of Command.”

Women actually passing ranger training is about as likely as a poodle competing successfully in equestrian events.


20 posted on 08/31/2015 12:19:12 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
There were a lot of other assertions about how the test was rigged to allow two females to pass it rather than to maintain the level of difficulty through which the males have to prevail.


The two women who passed the Ranger course did so on their own merits and to the standards the rest of the men met.

They earned their way in and deserve the credit for doing so.

22 posted on 08/31/2015 12:25:35 PM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Miller)
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To: DiogenesLamp

When I was at pre-Ranger (a two week program to see if I was good enough to go to actual Ranger School) there was a cadre member who was training for the annual Best Ranger Competition. He was allowed to workout as he saw fit all day. He was never really around but we saw him training like a madman during work hours. We never gave it a second thought because of how demanding that competition is. I have no problem with women getting some extra time to train for Ranger School.


29 posted on 08/31/2015 2:06:56 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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