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Illegal Aliens, Firearms and the 7th Circuit
8/28/2015 | self

Posted on 08/28/2015 8:03:24 AM PDT by drypowder

This week the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that people here in the US illegally are subject to 2nd Amendment Rights. For legal citizens, some states will not allow the sale of a firearm to someone who does not LEGALLY reside in that state thus impinging on a LEGAL CITIZEN's 2nd amendment rights. How is it that the 7th found that an illegal alien, regardless of which state they reside in can purchase a firearm when a legal citizen has to first LEGALLY RESIDE in the state?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; aliens; banglist; illegal
The drug cartels of Mexico must love this ruling.
1 posted on 08/28/2015 8:03:24 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

PING


2 posted on 08/28/2015 8:05:59 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: drypowder

There is a simple solution, require ID for the background check that illegals can’t provide.


3 posted on 08/28/2015 8:07:49 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: drypowder

The OP makes the ruling potentially a good thing: the decision can be used as a precedent to make exactly that case, and possibly strike down the federal law that prohibits out-of-staters from buying arms in other states. Similarly, it can be used to strike down state laws (e.g. NJ, MD) which prohibit people from out-of-state from bringing “illegal” firearms into the state. After all, as the OP says, if an illegal alien can legally do it, a lawful citizen ought to also be able to legally do it.


4 posted on 08/28/2015 8:08:53 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: drypowder

Just when I thought my blood pressure was alright . .


5 posted on 08/28/2015 8:08:54 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (“I happen to agree with it 100 percent,” - Trump on eminent domain)
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To: USNBandit

That sort of argument can be used to then require background checks for all transfers, including within a family or for private sales. Which then eventually puts every gun on paper and into the federal database. Not good.


6 posted on 08/28/2015 8:10:13 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: drypowder

How is it that an illegal alien from Guatemala or Mexico can attend a university as a resident, but a citizen from another state cannot...?


7 posted on 08/28/2015 8:13:31 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: USNBandit

You mean the ID that they can’t be compelled to show when they vote...?


8 posted on 08/28/2015 8:13:59 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: drypowder

Shall not be infringed.


9 posted on 08/28/2015 8:14:46 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: drypowder

Because natural rights exist absent the constitution.


10 posted on 08/28/2015 8:15:01 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: drypowder

Bottom Line: Liberalism/progressivism/Marxism/Maoism/Socialism/Communism - which are all shades of the same color, is standing on your head and telling the world that it’s upside down.


11 posted on 08/28/2015 8:16:06 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: drypowder
The 7th circus' ruling was that illegal aliens have a 2nd amendment right, but that laws prohibiting illegal aliens from possessing firearms or ammunition are constitutional.

This ruling supports all other gun control laws passed by the states or the Feds prohibiting types of firearms, ammunition, full capacity magazines, etc.

This is not a good ruling, as it supports infringing on 2A rights up to and including complete prohibition.

12 posted on 08/28/2015 8:18:39 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: USNBandit

You already have to do that anyways....

I will never understand why we give aliens (that includes those legally here also) the right to bear arms within our open nation.

American citizenship means your a$$ is taxed more to give to those unwilling to work for themselves or families and aliens have just as many rights (if not more) than we have


13 posted on 08/28/2015 8:34:50 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This Hispanic wants a wall, the National Guard, and turrets guarding our border)
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To: drypowder; Tennessee Nana

Court: Second Amendment also covers those in US illegally

http://journaltimes.com/news/news-state-wi/court-second-amendment-also-covers-those-in-us-illegally/article_855ef023-9c26-507e-abb4-8835a3024b7a.html


14 posted on 08/28/2015 8:53:36 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Yo-Yo; drypowder
My understanding is that justice Wood wrote in her opinions acknowledging self-protection right, be it citizens or illegal invaders post-Heller (I refuse to call them immigrants from this point on).

But then the decision went further to extend the equal protection of 2nd Amendment right to the illegals. In direct contrast to other Federal laws (18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5), which forbids illegal immigrants from possessing firearms in the United States.

15 posted on 08/28/2015 8:54:10 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
The illegal alien was found with a single round of .22LR ammunition, and his lawyer's argument was that the Federal laws you cited infringed upon his client's 2nd Amendment rights.

The presiding judge ruled that even though the 2nd Amendment extended to the illegal alien, the Federal prohibition of possessing ammunition by an illegal alien was constitutional.

Had your summary been true, then the justice would have ruled 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5) unconstitutional, referencing Heller as precedent.

16 posted on 08/28/2015 9:12:25 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: USNBandit

a few states are issuing driver licenses to illegals


17 posted on 08/28/2015 9:15:07 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: drypowder

bkmk


18 posted on 08/28/2015 9:27:47 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: drypowder

A complete Bizzaro world we are living in when those who should not be here enjoy our liberties.


19 posted on 08/28/2015 2:00:01 PM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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