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1 posted on 08/25/2015 7:58:15 AM PDT by Bill Russell
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To: Bill Russell

Logic and facts play no part in this discussion.

This is about money and power.


2 posted on 08/25/2015 8:06:12 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Bill Russell

Thanks for the reference...I will poke around and see if that surfaces anywhere in my library network...

Holy smokes. I watched a video to see the loading process for a 155mm weapon, and that looked like dangerous, back-breaking work to me (bunch of Marines out in Iraq). Trying to find out how much the shell weighs, it looks like 100+ lbs, and watching a guy pick one up, hump it over to the breech looking somewhat crab-legged...

I could see how average guys might be able to do it, but I am skeptical that average women (not pumped up by exercising constantly, taking steroids and/or drinking protein drinks all the time could do it.

That looked dangerous...lots of big, moving parts with lots of force to sever limbs behind them.


4 posted on 08/25/2015 8:19:17 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: Bill Russell

False choice. The question is not, at least primarily, what can women do or can’t do. The question is how will the behavior of men change. Not just the obvious “Love Boat” issues but otherwise. Remember the Japs tortured captives on Iwo Jima and Guadalcanal in the hearing of their buddies.


5 posted on 08/25/2015 8:20:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Bill Russell
I had this discussion the other day, and created this graph to illustrate the fundamental differences, which if correct (I think it is in the ball park) shows it at a glance:


6 posted on 08/25/2015 8:21:47 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: Bill Russell; GreyFriar

Hmm, I served in the Army field Artillery in the late 70’s and don’t remember this, pinging another FAer.


7 posted on 08/25/2015 8:21:48 AM PDT by PROCON (FReeping on CRUZ Control)
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To: Bill Russell

If the report was not favorable, it was probably buried a long time ago.


18 posted on 08/25/2015 9:04:19 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Redleg Duke

Ping


24 posted on 08/25/2015 9:40:12 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SgtBob

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29 posted on 08/25/2015 10:27:52 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: Bill Russell

This is like the homosexual marriage issue.

How many homosexual marriages has anyone been invited to?

I haven’t even heard of one.

The issue wasn’t that homosexual’s were crying their eyes out because they couldn’t get married.

It was about getting government benefits and screwing up the institution of marriage.

Same with this. Women want more rank to have more power and money.

What would have happened if every homosexual was required to be married? Yep, lots of screaming.

So, let the females in the Combat Arms, but the deal requires that every female between the ages of 18 and 55 must register for the Selective Service.

Then, in true social science fashion, an experiment must be conducted.

1,000 females would then be drafted. No deferments for anything. They will go through Basic Training and Infantry training. No deferments and no washouts. You can’t complete a task? Move on.

This battalion would then be deployed to Afghanistan for a year and engage in close combat. No early outs for anything.

Then, take a look at the data.

Women don’t care about this because they don’t have to. Every American male knows that his life is on the line and could be lost in combat due to having a female there. Make the women care about this.


35 posted on 08/25/2015 11:41:32 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Bill Russell

I remember it well rom an article in the Field Artillery Journal.

They cherry-picked some women, and put them on the M-101A 105mm cannon. With the light weight shells and gun, they were able to meet their requirements and it was trumpeted as proof that there was no difference between men and women in the FA.

Utter bullshit.


37 posted on 08/25/2015 12:59:43 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (The Federal Government is nothing but a welfare program with a dress code!)
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