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1 posted on 08/14/2015 7:48:40 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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SunkenCiv, pinged me here, I saw this thread the other day/night, Just seemed so depressing, so I didn’t even read it. I have felt all this before, to the EXTREME.

I’ve lived with a cutter, I can relate. I do so wish I could help, beyond a deep song.

This song is unbelievable in it’s Depth.

Cutter James McMurtry

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cutter+james+mcmurtry&qpvt=cutter+james+mcmurtry&FORM=VDRE#view=detail&mid=F260D9408698D347B74BF260D9408698D347B74B


195 posted on 08/16/2015 1:51:02 PM PDT by corbe
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Phone the local crisis suicide line. Talk to them and follow their advise. Talk to your Dr. too.

As others here have already said, you have family that love you and that is everything.

Your troubles are all fixable, get help and let others take the pressure off you, and give it time to get fixed. Talk to your family about your feelings.

Do you have Jesus Christ? Are you born again? See my about page.


197 posted on 08/16/2015 2:06:38 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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There is nothing good that will come of it and it will cause immense pain to those you care about. If you’re not a person of faith, perhaps it’s time to think about it. You can always contact a local church and speak to a pastor in addition to seeking assistance from a professional. You’re life may not feel like it’s worth much to you at times, but I assure you that it’s worth more than anything any of us can imagine. My prayers are with you.


198 posted on 08/16/2015 2:07:06 PM PDT by grimalkin (We are a nation under God. If we ever forget this, we are a nation gone under. -Ronald Reagan)
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No kidding take some Niacin(AKA B3) or B12 Complex (usually has a good bit of Niacin in it) It helps boost your attitude and it it good for you in other ways too. Gets you out of the doldrums.
200 posted on 08/16/2015 2:11:53 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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I have never thought about it because I cherish life too much. And besides, God is the only one who decides when your time is up. Nor would I ever do anything so selfish to my children. No matter what problems you think you have, if you take your life, you only make matters worse for those you leave behind. They will spend the rest of their lives feeling guilty, and wondering if it was their fault, and if they could have done anything different to stop you. Get some help.


202 posted on 08/16/2015 2:43:33 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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The wreckage one leaves when suiciding is vast. Your husband will grieve to the point of pure agony. Suicide is a selfish act bar none other in this world.

God loves you. I love you too. I was committing suicide by the dime bag when I was in addiction. I found a way out. This way will work for you, too, even without being an addict.

Contact me.

If you kill yourself, you will be killing the wrong woman.


203 posted on 08/16/2015 2:48:22 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Dear Jeb Bush..... Trump upped his game. Up yours!.... Love, Laz.)
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As a pastor of 40 years and volunteer police chaplain, please don’t do it ...like one of posters said the cup is neither half empty nor half full...it is refillable. You hang in there your condition is temporary and the wife and I will keep you in prayer. Keep us updated please!
Freegards
LEX


204 posted on 08/16/2015 2:49:18 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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Praying for you

210 posted on 08/16/2015 4:33:37 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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I am just reading your post now - two days after you posted. I hope you are feeling better.
First start with God. We are His Creation. We are here to Glorify Him.
Undoubtedly we live in a sin cursed world (our first parents sinned by not trusting God - and we've inherited our parents' sinful nature), and we have troubles crashing around us. Nonetheless, God has loved us so much, that He sent His only Begotten Son, our Lord, and Saviour, Jesus Christ, to save us.
He not only stood in our place to take our punishment, He intercedes on our behalf today. Cry out to the Lord, make your requests known. Look to Him and Trust in Him is all I can recommend.
It may not ease the pain, but I recommend reading the Book of Job. I can't think of anyone who suffered more than Job. He was bewildered, and didn't know why his world was crashing down around him. Yet through it all, he trusted in the Lord - knowing that in the end, even after his death, he'd see his Redeemer - who ever liveth. And the Lord brought him through the pain.

Prayers to you, and prayers that you find the Rock to hitch your anchor - and to get you through this storm.

211 posted on 08/16/2015 6:32:56 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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I was diagnosed with a terminal disease a couple of years ago, and I felt like I had reached an end. Looking at the future only yields a terrible darkness....

I still hadn’t reached a finality as I’m still fighting this. Surely a struggle of the worst kind.


212 posted on 08/16/2015 6:39:26 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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Hi Julie,

I think that is your name that you posted in one of the replies. I am not sure if my email to you went through so please forgive me if you get two of these. I sent it to you privately and pray the Lord will show you how precious you are. : )

Here it is if you did not see it:

Hi proud American in Canada,

I don’t check in to FR that much anymore, just on occasion. I am conservative, but more importantly Christian. May I share with you some thoughts? First off, please write me anytime and I will pray with you or share scripture with you. I could go on about things in my life that are sad, but there is one constant that will never change that is the most beautiful, wonderful thing and that is God’s love for me. He loves me and I know it. Happy (blessed times exceedingly blessed) are the people who’s God is the Lord. May I ask you...is Jesus your Lord? If not he said, you were the reason he came to this earth. God loves all of us as if there were only one of us. And if you were the only person on this earth, he would have come for you. I do think that if you need medication that is okay. But I did have a pastor that brought up a very good point...The most important thing is get on your knees right now, yes right now...you can read what I have to say later and let Him comfort you. There are promises in HIs word for you. He said He would never NEVER that means never leave you. (So please don’t leave your husband in this hateful way. He loves you too by what you wrote.) God’s word says He is our Wonderful Counselor. You can tell Him ANYthing. I do. I tell him all about anything and everything. Because He is my best friend. You can do that too. He speaks in a still small voice. But sometimes when I can’t hear him I say, “Please God, speak louder.” He gives hope, love, faith. All these things come from HIm. He says in His word for you to ask, but don’t doubt, and you will receive the things you ask for. But also, sometimes we don’t know how to pray and we ask for things that would not be right or good for us. He is a good Father. He knows what is best so remember after you pray to always say, “Lord, not my will but Yours be done.”

Dear Proud American in Canada,
God created you. Maybe watch that movie “It’s A Wonderful Life” and know without you our world will be a sadder place. It will be sadder for your husband. It will be sadder for your children. It will be sadder for Ellie.

A good friend of mine’s twin left this life in that horrible manner. That was about 3 years ago. After that, their mom tried to leave in the same way because she was so sad about it. But she failed her attempt and only caused more health issues to herself! But my friend has not recovered. If you’d like to know how awful it is for the ones you leave behind read this letter she wrote to us:

I know it seems like such a simple thing to respond to emails...somedays it is so over-whelming!
Just the process of grieving while holding it together for my 3 kids and husband, home-schooling and providing meals is all I can do!
I am sorry to be a flake, I do love reading and praying for you all. I have been having a very hard time since Thanksgiving...I guess I
realized when my brother didn’t show up, that he really never will! The fact that it was suicide adds a component to the grief that is inde-scribable....
I have questioned things like never be-fore...is God good ...ALL the time? Is His grace sufficient? I have come to the conclusion that absolutely Yes He is good!
Please continue to pray for me as I work through all these issues, the grief and pain and that I would be able to stand strong for my fam-ily and be a light to others!

If you need someone to talk with, I recommend
1. Calvary Chapel Churches or a good Christian church in your area.
2. You can also go to this site, a caller called in about this topic:
New Life Live: http://newlife.com/new-life-live-october-7-2013
3. Focus On the Family: Talk with a counselor here
https://focusonthefamily.webconnex.com/counselingrequests?_ga=1.208867031.474982768.1439611092

Here are some promises from God’s Word for you and there are many more in His Word. My scriptures this month in context and with references:

I AM with you always...
Matthew 28:20
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

The God who created this amazing beauty says, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”
Hebrews 13:5
Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, “I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.”

“You are the apple of my eye.”
apple of His eye: Originally meaning the central aperture of the eye. Figuratively it is something, or more usually someone, cherished above others.

The idea that someone or something is a most prized possession, like the apple that is the best in the bunch, is found in the Bible five times. This is how God sees His chosen ones, and this is how we should see God and His Word. We are His prize and He is ours.

Zechariah 2:8: For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.

“He found him in a desert land. And in the wasteland, a howling wilderness; He encircled him, He instructed him, He kept him as the apple of His eye.” -Deuteronomy 32:10 NKJV

“Keep me as the apple of Your eye; Hide me under the shadow of Your wings.” - Psalm 17:8 NKJV

“I love you with an everlasting love.”
Jeremiah 31:3
The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, “Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.”

Much love to you : )


214 posted on 08/16/2015 9:29:08 PM PDT by PrayAndVoteConservesInLibsOut (PRAYING FOR AMERICA EVERY DAY!)
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I used to think I had something to contribute to the world. Now, I am not sure.

You always have something to contribute to the world. Your love, Your experience, Your self. My only child, my daughter was a 'cutter' in her teens and early twenties. She is now a grown woman with a son and a great husband. Today is her son's, and my only grand child, first day of school. You can handle all of these problems, with a little bit of God's help. He never gives us more problems than we can handle, and He will always be there for us. The one thing the Bible say that God will give us without fail if we pray for it is 'Wisdom'. He will give you the tools you need to solve these problems, just ask, and it will be given. The sky may be dark and cloudy, but above the clouds the sun is always shining. You can be the rock that anchors all your family together at this time of trouble, because they need you.........................

Will all love and affection in Jesus Christ, I pray for you to be helped and healed...............

Red Badger......................................

216 posted on 08/17/2015 6:20:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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There seems to be a rash of this kind of thought. Recently, I found myself in a conversation with a young woman who felt that so many negative things in her life were piling upon her and that she thought that perhaps the world would be better-off without her. This kind of thought deeply saddens many people here. Whatever darkness is beckoning to you, do not answer its call. You are loved and needed by so many that your absence would leave a obvious void in their lives. Reach out to our Lord, reach out to a clergyman, reach out to trusted friends and/or family. There are many who will gladly give to you a lifeline if you will only ask.


217 posted on 08/17/2015 6:55:27 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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I am praying peace for you this morning, proud American in Canada.


218 posted on 08/17/2015 7:01:03 AM PDT by kcat
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I read the first two comments at this link and thought about you.

Hope this helps.

220 posted on 08/17/2015 2:57:13 PM PDT by wideminded
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please consider all that you enjoy doing in life. choose one (the one you like the most, perhaps), and pick it as your new (or old) career.

keep yourself busy and focus on doing things that are in the area of the new career.

talk with people, especially people in the area of the new career.

remember that things are always darkest in the second act of a four act play— when the hero seems to be faced with insurmountable odds. view yourself as that you are simply in the second act, and you have two more and possibly happier acts to look forward to.


221 posted on 08/17/2015 3:07:32 PM PDT by SteveH
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I’m so sorry to be so late to reply! I, too, have been prone to depression pretty much all my life. I have wished I’d never been born more than a few times, but never been suicidal or intentionally hurt myself.

Two things: I’ve never been able to shake the fear (?) that just as soon as I did (offed myself) some incredible thing would happen, right away, that would completely change my life & I would have screwed myself out of it.

The only thing that’s ever really helped a bad funk is nature- watching the critters at our feeders, going to the beach to just sit & heal, someplace with lots of trees. YMMV.

God Is *Right. There.* with you, Proud American. We are only looking through a keyhole, but He Sees our whole lives & everything that is around us. And every single thing that happens in our lives fits together as tight as puzzle pieces when we look back on it. The change that is inevitable goes both ways; bad to good as much as good to bad.

I’ll be keeping you in my prayers. Things WILL turn around for you, I know.


223 posted on 08/18/2015 4:03:42 AM PDT by KGeorge
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