Mormons publish photos of Smith’s ‘seer stone’

AP ^ | Aug. 5, 2015 | Brady McCombs

[MinuteGal]

My comment wasn't directed at you...I only followed the practice here of most replies being directed at the poster of the original article.

Yes, I'm aware of the direction most religious threads take here and how quickly they degenerate....and in view of the recent essay by management referring to religious threads I'm also aware of the old adage, "the more things change, the more things remain the same."

Leni

[Elsie]

And seemingly proud of it

[Elsie]

I'm conservative Missouri Synod Lutheran.

Leni

Nice name; Leni...

Mormonism is not Christianity. FYI -->

Christian churches teach belief in God as an eternal, self-existent, immortal being, unfettered by corporeal limitations and unchanging in both character and nature. In recent years, several Christian denominations have made studies of Mormon teaching and come to the conclusion that there are irreconcilable differences between LDS doctrine and Christian beliefs based on the Bible.

• Statement of the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod
• Statement of the Presbyterian Church (USA)
• Statement of the Roman Catholic Church
• Statement of the Southern Baptist Convention
• Statement of the United Methodist Church
• Statement of the Assemblies of God Church

Some Mormons undoubtedly become Christians, and evidently leave the Mormon sect they were members of behind.

(Thanks to delacort for compiling this list)

Mormonism is not Christianity. FYI -->

Christian churches teach belief in God as an eternal, self-existent, immortal being, unfettered by corporeal limitations and unchanging in both character and nature. In recent years, several Christian denominations have made studies of Mormon teaching and come to the conclusion that there are irreconcilable differences between LDS doctrine and Christian beliefs based on the Bible.

• Statement of the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod
• Statement of the Presbyterian Church (USA)
• Statement of the Roman Catholic Church
• Statement of the Southern Baptist Convention
• Statement of the United Methodist Church
• Statement of the Assemblies of God Church

[Elsie]

I know many Mormons consider themselves Christians as they accept Jesus as their Lord and savior,

They'd better 'accept' MORE than this!!!!

What Joseph Smith Means to Us  (From: various sources )

 

 

 

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."

- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321

 

 

 

 

"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."

- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88

 

 

 

 

"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"

- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"

- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190

 

 

 

 

"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."

- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

 

 

 

 

"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"

- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670

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They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.

He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.

He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.

As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.

Who has made this so?

Have I?

Have this people?

Have the world?

No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.

If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.

If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.

Can you pass without his inspection?

No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.

They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?

They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?

Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224

[Elsie]

But saying that might be perceived as hate.

Well; as we ALL know...

Perceivers gonna perceive!

[CodeToad]

No offense but I am on FR to read posts not perform individual study of chaotic information.

[Elsie]

Oh, great way to read my comments and make an assumption based off my comment that is completely wrong.

Assumptions are EASY to make; when part of a person's thought process has not been fully shown.

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Thanks for the clarification.

But please; calm down.

[Elsie]

Out of chaos comes order; of one kind or another.

[Elsie]

Are ya happy now?

[CodeToad]

“Out of chaos comes order”

That’s what disorganized people like to claim. Out of chaos is nothing. Order creates product.

[DungeonMaster]

Perceivers gonna perceive!

LOL.

[Tennessee Nana]

Transparency thy name is Elsie..

[Tennessee Nana]

Joey Smith had Donald Trump hair !!!

No wonder he thought he could run for POTUS in 1844..

:)

[donozark]

I believe it may be petrified poplar. Originating from Susquehanna County, Pennsylvania? Near Harmony/Great Bend. Alluded to in Blackman's History of Susq. Co.

Any rockhounds out there?

[delchiante]

I know they follow a false prophet,have traditions of men that lay aside His Commandments,and keep Rome’s satanic counterfeit calendar instead of the biblical calendar.

But lots of people do that..

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“I know many Mormons consider themselves Christians as they accept Jesus as their Lord and savior, and I have no doubt they are Christians because they do”

Wrong Christ. The Mormon Christ is a created spirit being who came to earth to get a body and after living right, became a Mormonic God - one of billions or trillions. Heck, Mormons have a minimum of 4 Earth Gods.

The Mormonic Christ doesn’t save on the cross. He sweated. The Mormonic Christ only steps in once you’ve done all you can do - ie. useless works that can never save.

The Biblical Christ was eternally God, neither created nor made. He alone saves eternally by His sacrifice on the cross as full payment for our sins.

[CodeToad]

That’s by various doctrines and hocus pocus mumbo jumbo. Many Mormons have no clue about all that and accept Jesus as he is.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

But the friends said all they really saw was what appeared to be a book covered with a tablecloth. they never saw any gold plates.
They said they saw it “with the eye of faith.”

When pressed farther one man said that “When someone who you know can not lie, tells you of a town far away, you can, with the eye of faith, actually see that town.”

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

More like a “Mad Stone”.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

The book of Ether. Like chloroform in print. Both will make your head grow heavy and your eyes grow weak. I had to stop for the night.