[Pollster1]

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Since foreign governments argue that their citizens in our country are subject to their jurisdiction and not ours, it is reasonable to treat illegals and their anchor babies as "not subject to the jurisdiction thereof" and thus not citizens.

[KGeorge]

The problem lies in the wording of the amendment (Section 1.)

I think that’s true as far as extradition is concerned, but if you or I commit a crime in another country (including illegal entry- most especially in Mexico), that government could & would prosecute us, as we should do with foreign nationals. We would go to jail like the Marine in Mexico or the Americans still held in Iran.

I’m afraid they’ve got us on this one unless & until we change the wording/ provisions of the 14th amendment. The 64 million dollar question is how do we get Congress to do that, a president who will sign it (or be overridden), 2/3 of the states to ratify it & the SCOTUS (because it WILL be challenged- probably repeatedly- by the left) to uphold it.

(I see where you’re going with “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof’’, Pollster1. They are ‘’subject to US jurisdiction’’ because they are physically present on our soil. That’s why they have been & sometimes are, arrested for crimes committed here. That stopped happening because we have a president who is willing to break the law, himself. Our laws were not applied equally (’’diplomatic immunity’’) before that.

If the words ‘’all persons born’’ were stricken from this amendment, we might not be having so much difficulty. Of course, that’s hypothetical. I imagine we still would be. Invaders don’t care whether what they’re doing is illegal or not.)

In this case, it’s Mexican nationals (as far as I can tell), but it applies to any foreign national attempting to secure (by giving birth) sanction & financial support in this country.

[iontheball]

Since foreign governments argue that their citizens in our country are subject to their jurisdiction and not ours, it is reasonable to treat illegals and their anchor babies as “not subject to the jurisdiction thereof” and thus not citizens.
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It is self-proving. The parent is illegal so the begotten child is illegal. Everyone glosses over the “subject to the jurisdiction” part. Everyone knows they are citizens of the country they came from and subject to that country's jurisdiction. Just because they illegally crashed our border does not mean they are subject to U.S. jurisdiction and the child somehow magically becomes a citizen by being born here. If they are subject to U.S. jurisdiction, then what is the need for the having a metricula document from Mexico? It is just another stupid document to confuse the matter. It is all a big scam, a ridiculous proposition, foisted on this country by corrupt courts and politicians. Another separate but related phony proposition is that states have NO jurisdiction over any immigration issues. Look what they are doing to Joe Arpaio and the runaway Arizona illegal alien mess.