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Jim Gray calls Brady suspension a sham Jul. 29, 2015 - 2:57 - Veteran sportscaster and Fox News contributor claims NFL never put Tom Brady on notice that failing to turn over his cellphone would result in obstructing justice charge.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4384090496001/jim-gray-calls-brady-suspension-a-sham/?#sp=show-clips

1 posted on 07/30/2015 7:37:25 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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How about him being a lying cheat?


2 posted on 07/30/2015 7:39:14 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The cunning Venezuelan gov't has eliminated the toilet paper shortage by creating a food shortage.)
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Sure it does. He snubbed Barry and was punished. Whats not to understand?


3 posted on 07/30/2015 7:39:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: NKP_Vet

Yep...Brady is above reproach. /s


4 posted on 07/30/2015 7:41:47 PM PDT by berdie
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I always HATE pundits who talk like they know exactly what facts were analyzed They don’t. Period.

Maybe he got a raw deal, maybe not. But even public trials are tough to weigh in on unless you sit through the entire trial like a juror.


5 posted on 07/30/2015 7:43:47 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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Every NFL team cheats, as do most players individually. Brady is upset b/c he knows it, but got caught with his paticular kind of cheating. If he weren’t the icon of the cheatin’est franchise, he might not have been suspended.


6 posted on 07/30/2015 7:44:08 PM PDT by twister881
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What CEO destroys his most excellent product? This whole thing is insane. That magical ending to the SuperBowl should’ve put it to rest.


7 posted on 07/30/2015 7:44:56 PM PDT by grania
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I read the Wells report. Brady was railroaded.

He had no motivation to underinflate the balls. He plays great with properly inflated footballs. The only motivation he had was to make sure the balls weren’t overinflated.

The Wells report demonstrated that the NFL had terrible procedures for checking pressure.


9 posted on 07/30/2015 7:51:58 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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This is all pretty lame. If the NFL has credibility, they should have done more than than this. Brady intentionally destroyed his phone, he cheated in the game, maybe not for the first time. Four games? He should be banned for life. Further, the Patriots should have the win yanked from them, be banned or sanctioned.


10 posted on 07/30/2015 7:54:21 PM PDT by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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Pressure issues discussed at ClimateAudit...


13 posted on 07/30/2015 7:59:05 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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Tom Brady did wrong and got caught....his coach tossed him under the bus, and everyone thinks that he is so picked on because he has to sit out some games....

HE DID WRONG...he needs to be kicked out of the NFL. PERIOD


15 posted on 07/30/2015 8:07:21 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Send 'slob boy of the oval office' back to Kenya ASAP, and save America...)
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To: All; flaglady47; Maine Mariner; pax_et_bonum; mickie
Tom Brady is a great athlete, he's young, he's good-lookin', he's popular, he's personable, he's rich, and he has a gorgeous wife.

What's not for the NFL pecksniffs to hate?

Leni

20 posted on 07/30/2015 8:17:28 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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Brady is successful and he is white. How much more guilty can you get.


23 posted on 07/30/2015 8:45:08 PM PDT by JimSEA
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It doesn't make sense why the NFL sold out Tom Brady

Well, he broke the rules.

24 posted on 07/30/2015 8:46:18 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("No social transformation without representation." - Justice Antonin Scalia)
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The Deflategate episode has been like watching video of one of those Asian airliner crashes in which supposedly capable pilots drop their aircraft out of the sky due to a combination of easily avoidable small errors. Goodell, a liberal to the core and a lawyer, could not but let himself yield to the hue and cry from the similarly liberal sports media that Something Must Be Done.

As framed by the news media, the dodgy reputation of the Patriots and Belichick required Goodell and the NFL to undertake a prosecutorial style investigation to find and punish the guilty. Once an investigation on those terms was begun, the credibility of the NFL then rested on ultimately delivering punishment -- and not just as to the immediate perpetrators, but also against the principals at fault. Inevitably, that would have to lead to damage to making allegations against the team and Brady.

Goodell was blind to the looming pitfall that he set for himself and the NFL. The investigation careened out of control, with no logical end point except that someone important had to be identified as guilty. Similarly, in the Duke lacrosse case and the recent Rolling Stone article about the supposed rape culture on college campuses, once it was assumed that a rape occurred, someone must be identified as a rapist.

What should Goodell and the NFL have done? Commission a purely fact-finding investigation into the Deflategate episode. Permit the investigation to yield recommendations for changes in NFL rules and practices to assure the security and proper inflation of footballs, with any decisions left to the good judgment of the league and its owners. From the start, the investigators should have been expressly cautioned against making factually unsupported or unfair accusations or inferences against individuals or against the Patriots organization.

With such a caution, the investigation would not have fallen into impugning Brady and the Patriots as if the investigation was a grand jury and Brady and his team are unindicted co-conspirators in a major Mafia crime. Meanwhile, Goodell, with the support of the league owners, could have pressed the Patriots to accept several years of a compliance and monitoring program as a remedy for letting the mess develop in the first place. Most of the owners would have backed that, and the Patriots would have been wise to embrace such a proposal as a way to mollify the sports media and the public while avoiding a worse outcome.

Perhaps the most pressing issue now is not what happens to Brady and the Patriots but what happens to Goodell. The NFL owners are no doubt wondering why a smart guy paid so much money has not done a better job of protecting the reputation of the league and preventing needless damage to one of its greatest teams and quarterbacks. Every owner, coach, and player now realizes that, in a pinch, Goodell may miss his blocking assignment and leave the league, its teams, and players unprotected.

30 posted on 07/30/2015 9:59:05 PM PDT by Rockingham
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And make no mistake, the NFL made that choice. [To rip apart Tom Brady]

Tom Brady also made that choice. Did you see his original press conference?

And then he destroys the phone on the day it was requested?

This isn't a court of criminal law. It's a court of public opinion, and it's the NFL league management. The burden of proof is not "beyond a reasonable doubt as in a crimninal case. Why is anybody pretending that is, or should be, the standard here? That is mere obfuscation.

On the contrary, the standard is "preponderance of evidence" as in a civil case. That standard is quite reasonable under the circumstances.

Basically, Brady was totally obstinate from the beginning. I refer you once again back to his original press conference. Does that video look like somebody who is totally innocent? Brady had to give the NFL a compelling reason to hit him so hard, and he has done precisely what is necessary in order to guarantee that outcome.

I was very surprised that Brady's suspension wasn't reduced to 2 games, and the fact that it wasn't reduced tells me that the Commissioner is confident of his ruling.

The Patriots and Brady seem to think that they're bigger than the rest of the league, and can dictate their own rules and outcomes.

I don't see where Commissioner Goodell had any motivation to impose this strict punishment, unless he honestly believes that something which threatened the integrity of the game occurred, something which the Patriots apparently feel is of no consequence whatsoever.

Let's remember that in the past, Commissioner Goodell has been accused of being too friendly and cozy with Patriots owner Robert Kraft. This incident certainly obliterates that notion.

I just don't see Roger Goodell doing this without holding some strong conviction regarding what happened.

Notwithstanding that, there have been several opportunities for Brady and the Patriots to diffuse this situation, and instead they have acted more and more defiant. Their response is to go "scorched earth". So be it.

So I say let the chips fall where they may, because both the NFL owners and the NFLPA (the players' union) have granted the commissioner the power to make exactly the decisions he has made.

If the Patriots and the NFLPA are smart, they'll get this resolved before the season starts; otherwise, Brady may end up serving his suspension towards the end of the season when the games really count.

No team is bigger than the league, and the Commissioner is preparing to establish that fact, methinks. The other team owners I've heard from, including, for example, Dallas' Jerry Jones, are staunchly supportive of the commissioner in this case. So the Patriots should probably wise up and realize that they're not going to win this one, and going "scorched earth" will simply cement the perception in people's minds that the Patriots think they get to operate by different rules than other teams.

And if any other teams or players are guilty of doctoring the balls, then hold them responsible as well, I say.

This episode could have remained the tempest in the teapot that it started out as, but Brady and the Patriots are primarily responsible for it getting blown out of proportion, IMHO.

I keep coming back to the idea that Goodell upheld the full 4-game suspension. I just don't see him doing that without being strongly convinced that it was justified.

32 posted on 07/30/2015 10:46:48 PM PDT by sargon
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I have always wondered since the refs touch the ball every down why is this even an issue....

The first people to have noticed a deflated ball should have been them...


35 posted on 07/31/2015 4:50:14 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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