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Civil War 2 (CWII) - War is about one thing - Killing Your ENEMY before they Kill You!
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Posted on 07/13/2015 6:30:51 AM PDT by Chance Hart

There is a huge difference between Civil Unrest, Public Protest, disagreement and sometimes even hatred for those that have differing political views or other agendas than your own. Many that are hard Left or hard Right are easy to identify only because they have a forum called Media (in all its varied forms) to expose their core beliefs to the masses on a daily basis. This is an Extremely Small portion of the population. Also, there are the people that you know well from family on down to casual acquaintances, which is again a Very Small group itself as compared to the population as a whole.

All of the above (and countless more scenarios) most usually are not life threatening. When the word WAR is attached though, it becomes a game changer. War is not just about disagreement and the private or public expression of it. War, for the most part is about killing your perceived enemy before they can do unto you. That being said, how would battle lines be drawn and how could you confidently identify your enemy if (God forbid) there was the spark that ignited a second Civil War contained within the borders of the United States?

In most past and present Civil Wars, including ours, there were and are things that make enemy identification less difficult. I will list a few of these and hope the more experienced FReepers can add to the list and the conversation.

1. Unlike most countries involved in past (including ours) and present Civil War the opposing sides are for the most part separated by the land mass. Not the case here, as we all pretty much live together in the same State, City, Neighborhood, Apartment buildings, etc. I could be more specific, but you get my point.

2. Unlike military combatants, we for the most part would not be in Uniform for identification.

3. What to do about the people that not only live close by, but live in your Mega Unit apartment complex and gated communities, etc. Which of these have chosen a side and will kill you and yours on site?

4. Will the military take sides?

5. What about the large number of criminals (or soon to be criminals) that are not into it for the outcome, but for the gratification of joining in on the mayhem for various other reasons.

I know that this in no way even touches the thousands of known and unknown potential scenarios that would be involved, but would like to hear your thoughts on the subject as it pertains to both the Right, The Left, the military, politicians, and the middle of the road, and others that may find themselves embroiled in such a ghastly situation.

Thanks in advance for your comments and expertise.


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To: central_va

Agreed.


21 posted on 07/13/2015 7:36:40 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Chance Hart

I really don’t think that meditation on sedition and rebellion is helpful on Free Republic. Contemplating about “who is going to be killed” is even worse, and is reminiscent of Marxist/Leninist radicals. Like St. Paul exhorted, in as much as possible, we should endeavor to live peaceably with all men.


22 posted on 07/13/2015 7:48:26 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Chance Hart

Anybody who wants a shooting war — is insane.


23 posted on 07/13/2015 7:53:06 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill


24 posted on 07/13/2015 7:54:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Make sure the seceding entity has nukes. I do not trust DC.
Ha #TrustButVerify


25 posted on 07/13/2015 8:21:53 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: Chance Hart

Clausewitz taught us that war is an extension of politics by other means.

A civil war would be an extension of politics within a nation.

So, yes, a civil war is an extension of politics.

But it is the end of politics. Once the killing starts, there is no going back to the ballot box. We did not ask the Japanese to vote on peace. We forced peace on them.

Have the Liberals been waging war on us? That is, war as it is commonly understood? Are they killing conservatives?

No.

What are they doing, then?

Taking our money. Yes. Legislating away our code of morals? Yes. Turning our youth into mindless sheep? Yes.

But, to what end are they doing this?

Look at the leaders of the political Liberals.

Are any of them working on communes. No. They are all about making themselves, their family members and their friends wealthy.

I give you Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

They aren’t communists.

They are greedy thieves.


26 posted on 07/13/2015 8:25:55 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Chance Hart

Which of these have chosen a side and will kill you and yours on site?

Or on sight? Or both?


27 posted on 07/13/2015 8:30:54 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: rjsimmon
However, the next CW will begin locally and expand once the premise is understood and the beligerants identified.

And then the primary targets should be the leadership of any agency operating for the regime, those who GIVE THE ORDERS. Cut off the head, the snake will die.

28 posted on 07/13/2015 8:35:50 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: BenLurkin

Amen, war is hell.


29 posted on 07/13/2015 8:36:08 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: Old Sarge
They have won the culture war - what we are seeing is the mopping up and occupation.

Agreed.

If there is to be another CW, it will be over economic issues...not cultural.

50+ years of unimpeded indoctrination will do that to a society.

30 posted on 07/13/2015 8:36:17 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
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To: Wallace T.
Say what you will about Obama, but he knows history. Why isn't Hillary Clinton Vice President?

Because Obama knows that she'd be president by now, after his "accident"...

31 posted on 07/13/2015 8:40:18 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Chance Hart

bfl


32 posted on 07/13/2015 8:49:59 AM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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To: JimRed
Look at the post-Johnson vice presidents. Several, like Agnew, Cheney, and Biden, had no serious presidential ambitions. Humphrey was easily intimidated by LBJ, and benefited from the latter's implosion due to the Vietnam War. Ford knew Nixon was in deep trouble when he accepted the vice presidency after Agnew's resignation. Mondale was willing to wait for Carter to implode due to his incompetence. Quayle was a lightweight who was too gaffe prone to have survived in a presidential race. Gore was willing to wait, and he recognized that the Clintons know too many "hard men" to consider a faster route to the Oval Office. He knew the fates of Vince Foster and Ron Brown.

The lessons of Dallas were well learned by Kennedy's successors.

33 posted on 07/13/2015 9:04:52 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Chance Hart

What’s the theoretical causus belli here?


34 posted on 07/13/2015 9:15:38 AM PDT by llabradoodlle
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To: The Working Man

Yes. There seems to be a subset of people who really want it, and that is disturbing.

If it happens, it is going to happen, and all kinds of negotiations, discussions, aren’t going to change it, and it will be necessary if it happens.

But to WANT a war is a sick perversion.


35 posted on 07/13/2015 9:38:42 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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To: CPT Clay; BenLurkin
Someone posted this: "...War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things..."

The love of war may not be as ugly, but it is pretty ugly in a different way. And I am seeing some of that lately.

36 posted on 07/13/2015 9:46:09 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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To: rlmorel
I can't imagine why men love war.
37 posted on 07/13/2015 9:57:25 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (The last days of America will not resemble Rome, but Carthage.)
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To: rlmorel

And, no, I do not love war.


38 posted on 07/13/2015 9:58:36 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (The last days of America will not resemble Rome, but Carthage.)
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To: Wallace T.

I think you’re wrong on there being no geographic deliniation. There will definitely be one. It’ll be on a city by city basis, at the approximate location where the urban core and inner suburbs transition to the outer suburbs/exurbs.

The deciding factor won’t be direct armed conflict. It will be the point where the people trapped inside the geographic deliniation I describe run out of the food produced and transported by the folks who live outside it.


39 posted on 07/13/2015 10:08:51 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Chance Hart

Any one shooting at me or in my direction is the enemy.


40 posted on 07/13/2015 10:20:19 AM PDT by stockpirate (A corrupt government is the real enemy of the people.)
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