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We tried using Windows 10 for real work and ... oh, the HORRORS (actually a good in-depth review)
The Register ^ | July 7, 2015 | Andrew Orlowski

Posted on 07/07/2015 6:16:20 PM PDT by dayglored

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To: ShadowAce
Wow. That just doesn't sound pleasant at all.

Might or might not be, depending on what it's pasted on.

61 posted on 07/08/2015 6:22:30 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Anything from a “motorway service station” can’t be all that good. :)


62 posted on 07/08/2015 6:23:49 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Not even if it’s a Swedish motorway?


63 posted on 07/08/2015 6:38:01 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
LOL! Well.....

I'll give you that one

64 posted on 07/08/2015 6:41:23 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: chulaivn66

Was that an Osbourne, or a Kaypro? Man those luggable were heavy.


65 posted on 07/08/2015 7:52:59 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Bob434

“not just ‘critical’ updates but also ‘recommended’ updates and driver updates as well”

Not to mention Windows Media Center’s new, bundled program “Ouch, My Balls”


66 posted on 07/08/2015 9:23:15 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Bob434
...least give us the OPTION to retain the ‘classic look’...

I tell a lot of friends who hate 8.1 to use "Classic Shell" which works for Windows 10, too. It's not exactly the same as 7 but it's not bad.
67 posted on 07/08/2015 11:27:07 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: AFreeBird

Pied Piper


68 posted on 07/08/2015 6:23:33 PM PDT by chulaivn66 (Meine antwort ist nein. Ende der Debatte. Macht euer Spiel.)
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To: \/\/ayne
I tell a lot of friends who hate 8.1 to use "Classic Shell" which works for Windows 10, too.

But i had to use Classic Shell 4.2.0 beta. Maybe that has changed.

69 posted on 07/08/2015 7:34:46 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: \/\/ayne

yeah, I used it when I thought windows 7 couldn’t have the control panel flyout I nthe start m enu- it was ok- I had read that it wasn’t going to work with windows 10 though? Have you tried it?


70 posted on 07/08/2015 7:41:04 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Cold Heat

I believe the secret to understanding MS is they are geeks...writing for a geek audience. Their marketing side are not, and are really at a loss for describing the products to non geeks...look at the commercials. It is a wonder that their market share is not reversed with Apple.

I am an experienced PC user and have used MS windows since V2.86 IIRC. When Windows 8 came out, I was lucky enough to read an online tech journal called Tom’s Hardware. They had an article about migrating from Win 7 to Win 8. It was twenty pages long. I could understand it, but my parents certainly would not.

MS has a long term vision, they want an OS that will be compatible and interoperable with ALL devices with a microprocessor. That is a big vision. The biggest piece of doo doo to go with it is compatibility with legacy devices and legacy software. So everything gets bloated and compromised. Geeks are horrible at explaining things to people that can’t validate how clever they are, so many people are left behind.

They are doing some amazing things with real time VR and I can hardly wait for the pc version of Kinect. But with all MS projects, I will not be holding my breath.

Tiling was part of their vision. They wanted to force people to leave their task bar behind, and it failed miserably.

I used to say never migrate on a MS product until they release the bug release ver Service pack 1...Windows 3.0 vs 3.1...Win 95 vs 98, etc.

I think it will be alright, but before I migrate I will read the Tom’s Hardware guide to it. They will have it out for sure. Or do what PC owners have done for years...ask a pc user who has already done it.

What a bizarre product connected computers are!

DK

My watch talks to my phone and my phone is backed up to my PC so the MS vision really makes sense. But my phone and watch are Samsung so they are androids...go figure?


71 posted on 07/08/2015 8:33:29 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Bob434
Leave my gas pedal and brakes and blinkers etc alone please

When I "upgraded" to Office 2010, it took me ten minutes, and finally a Google search, to find out how to "convert table to text." The 2010 way was not better, nor worse, than in previous Office versions. Just different. And unnecessarily so. And that is just one example.

72 posted on 07/08/2015 8:42:43 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: The Final Harvest
I’ve been told I will be receiving a free copy of Win10 - and I’ll be TOLD when to download it.

One of my pet peeves with Windows is, sometimes when I want to shut down and put away my laptop, I'm told updates are being performed -- Do not shut off the computer. And then I think, Who's in charge here? Why am I not asked, Updates are available. Would now be a convenient time to install?

73 posted on 07/08/2015 8:48:48 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: tacticalogic
> If you're managing Windows systems, just use remote PS sessions.

Ah, but I'm not managing ONLY Windows systems -- only about 25% of my systems are Windows, XP->10 and Servers 2003->2012. About 50% are Linux (mostly Ubuntu), and the remaining 25% are a mix of OS-X, FreeBSD, NetBSD, SunOS/Solaris.

We put Cygwin on the Windows boxes and enable Cygwin's SSHD. Thus we have a consistent toolset across our machines. We make software products that are cross-platform and run essentially identically on all those platforms. We would hardly benefit from having to special-case our development and test methodologies just because Windows lags behind every other major OS in interoperability.

Powershell is very nice and has some very modern high-end features, but it's unfortunately utterly useless to me as a product development and network management tool until it drags itself forward into the 1990's and supports OpenSSH. Or alternatively, until PS is released for all those other operating systems.

Until then I'm stuck with Cygwin.

74 posted on 07/08/2015 8:52:26 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: kevao

Yeah, I know .. it’s doing more that just irritating me.


75 posted on 07/08/2015 10:38:57 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: kevao

Actually kevao, there is a setting for that.

It will either notify you that a DL is available, or it will download it and not install unless you give it permission.

The default setting is to download and install, and most installs these days might require a restart so it can update the registry.


76 posted on 07/08/2015 11:00:41 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat

Thanks, Cold Heat! I will switch that setting.


77 posted on 07/09/2015 7:12:19 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: az_gila
I have a CD player above the radio in my six year old car...have never once used it - probably because I don't know how.

It's very different from the player at home, and I just can't be bothered.

78 posted on 07/09/2015 8:45:38 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

“Why does Microsoft require me to learn new behaviors when they decide to upgrade their operating systems. Honda doesn’t make me learn how to drive differently when I buy a new car.”

Just came across this comment and I have to SECOND this motion!

I’m middle aged. CAN I learn new computer skills?

Sure.

But I’d rather learn how to grow a tomato plant, how to make a quilt, how to design a roof and what different materials are available for building.

I don’t want, or need, to learn a new skill set just to open FB, FR, Google, and my email daily.

Make something basic and simple and consistent for the rest of us.


79 posted on 07/19/2015 5:21:48 PM PDT by Marie
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To: NorthMountain

The problem is that we still have Boomers who cannot comprehend ‘copy-paste’ functions... who’s CHILDREN have spent HUNDREDS OF HOURS on the freaking phone walking them through a basic email setup and NOW who have to learn something NEW.

BFD??

YES!

In my family, this is a really, REALLY BFD!

My mother’s been without a computer for 8 months because she can’t understand Windows 8 tiles. NOBODY can explain it to her.

For her, computers are over. She’s DONE. FOREVER. This ended emails, FB, videos of her great granddaughter, Google, YouTube videos... all of it. She just can’t.

This leap was too big for a lot of older people. I’ve got two others who’ve been left behind and one who never caught up after Windows 98.


80 posted on 07/19/2015 5:28:47 PM PDT by Marie
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