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We tried using Windows 10 for real work and ... oh, the HORRORS (actually a good in-depth review)
The Register ^ | July 7, 2015 | Andrew Orlowski

Posted on 07/07/2015 6:16:20 PM PDT by dayglored

Every time I've looked at Windows 10, it hasn't been long before I've run away screaming. As recently as May the ISO was nowhere near ready for prime time. Testing Windows 10 seemed to me like volunteering to be an unpaid drug trial guinea pig – it would be painful and could potentially give you horrible side effects, and you wouldn't even have an envelope of cash at the end to show for it.

Keeping my distance from the very bleeding edge betas gives me some advantages, though. Like a sense of perspective. While bloggers and fanbois get excited over minuscule tweaks, and hail small improvements as earth-shattering milestones ("really polished now," they insist) my criteria are much simpler.

Is this simpler, or better, for getting work done than Windows 7 or 8.1? I'll attempt to answer that here, with the third of Microsoft's releases from last week – build 10162. If you have mostly or completely ignored Windows 10 so far, this is for you.

Overall, there's a lot to like about the overall ambition. I can see, in the far away distance, how Microsoft's disparate services are starting to knit together. I can almost imagine – without hallucinogenic drugs, although I am sure they'd help – how one could swap out a Mac and pick up a PC without too much difficulty. But not yet.

Using Windows 10 in its current state is a bit like getting a whiff of a really outstanding restaurant and being told that, for now, you have to settle for a motorway service station pasty. Do ignore the hardcore enthusiasts babbling away excitedly on fan forums: coming from 8.1, this build still feels very, very raw.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: build10162; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I don’t know. I go to crack my window a little and it goes all the way down. Still trying to get used to that feature.


21 posted on 07/07/2015 6:58:03 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: dayglored

I think he’s bitching for the sake of bitching. I’ve been using “Windows 10” ONLY since November, on my home computer.

I have no complaints at this point. The driver issues I had early on have been resolved.

So the UI is different from Win7.

BFD.

I have a start menu in the lower left corner of each display. I can find stuff in it.

The Windows administrative stuff is better organized than ever.

All my applications and tools work.

What’s the problem?


22 posted on 07/07/2015 7:18:18 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: NorthMountain

Oh, yes: Build 10130.


23 posted on 07/07/2015 7:18:44 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: tacticalogic

Just give me powershell 5


24 posted on 07/07/2015 7:22:11 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Cold Heat

No argument there. Hated tiles. Hated hot corners.


25 posted on 07/07/2015 7:25:09 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: miliantnutcase
Just give me powershell 5

I expect they'll have that back-ported to W7/2012 R2 not long after W10 goes RTM.

26 posted on 07/07/2015 7:32:52 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
No argument there. Hated tiles. Hated hot corners.

From what I've seen "tiles" are a stupid idea. What are "hot corners"?

27 posted on 07/07/2015 7:44:14 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: zeugma

I think he’s referring to win 8, where there are what we once called drop downs at the corners..and sides (used to call them side bars)

On these new OS’s, the dropdowns can be anything, including portions of the application you are running..

It takes you a while to discover them so that you can use the application or your device as intended. It’s really frustrating for old timers who started with 3.1 or win 95..

That would be me..


28 posted on 07/07/2015 7:59:37 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: zeugma

Go used to the tiles....finally....but they are really nothing more than a vast improvement over the much older attempts at a interactive desktops, introduced with win 98.

The difference is, that the design allows this to work the same on any screen size or device. Touch or curser.


29 posted on 07/07/2015 8:03:12 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat

As I said, I am getting used to it, but it has been frustrating..


30 posted on 07/07/2015 8:04:14 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Call tech help and you will be understanding a foreign language at no extra cost.


31 posted on 07/07/2015 8:14:50 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: dayglored

You cannot change the type of font. It looks to be segoe ui. You can change the size.


32 posted on 07/07/2015 8:18:58 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: tacticalogic
>> Just give me powershell 5

> I expect they'll have that back-ported to W7/2012 R2 not long after W10 goes RTM.

I'm waiting for the version that includes Secure Shell (~OpenSSh equiv) to get backported to Win7. :-)

80% of my daily work and 30-40% of my play at home involves getting a remote shell over SSh. Gotta have it...

33 posted on 07/07/2015 8:29:06 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: dayglored

Because they know they’re playing catch-up. They make radical changes in an attempt to reach Apple.

I just wish they didn’t do it with their server software, which is good.


34 posted on 07/07/2015 8:35:01 PM PDT by some tech guy (Stop trying to help, Obama)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Why does Microsoft require me to learn new behaviors when they decide to upgrade their operating systems. Honda doesn’t make me learn how to drive differently when I buy a new car.


Don't know about Honda, but most auto makers change the user interface over the different model years.

Things like the symbols used, what's on the stalks and what buttons are on the wheel. The heater/AC controls change at an even more frequent rate...:^)

So yes, you do have to re-learn some behaviors in your new car.

35 posted on 07/07/2015 8:42:38 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: dayglored

I have dumped many 'upgrades' from various software programs for that very reason. Their new and improved were crap. I have many 'old' programs on my Win7 that I refuse to update. I know they will not work with Win8 or 10. Those programs are more important for me than a fancy or tiled new glitzy interface.
36 posted on 07/07/2015 8:44:09 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: JoeProBono
I'm from the government and I'm here to help you.

37 posted on 07/07/2015 8:49:49 PM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: dayglored

I’m signed up for the free Win10 upgrade.

I will make a backup image of my current Win7 system and dual-boot Win7 and Win10.

It just seems safer that way.


38 posted on 07/07/2015 8:52:35 PM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: some tech guy
> I just wish they didn’t do it with their server software, which is good.

If Microsoft wants to put that experimental, teen/phone-oriented, focus-group-generated crap in a consumer UI, that's their business. But making it the primary interface on a serious server that serious network admins have to work on, is incomprehensibly dumb.

And that mindset goes all the way back to when they shoehorned the Win95 UI onto NT4, which up to that point would have been a fine server OS.

My first experience with a fresh Server 2012 install was a horror show. The twin of Win8's godawful UI popped up and stood between me and getting any work done. I wasted so much time just trying to do the simplest things, I finally relented. I wiped it, installed 2008, and did everything I had to to do in less than half the time I had previously wasted trying to get 2012 to a point where I could use it without cursing constantly.

They should learn to leave the server OS well enough alone, when they have a good thing. But I'm not holding my breath.

39 posted on 07/07/2015 8:53:36 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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To: Bobalu
> I will make a backup image of my current Win7 system and dual-boot Win7 and Win10. It just seems safer that way.

Agreed. My only caution to you is watch out for the Win10 boot manager. I don't know anything about it except that it's more restrictive in some ways.

I would HOPE that they don't prevent you from dual-booting 10 and 7, but I'll bet you can't use the 7 boot manager with 10. You'll probably have to let the 10 boot manager do its thing and then figure out how to get 7 back onto the machine.

I'm just guessing, you understand -- I haven't tried to do it myself yet.

40 posted on 07/07/2015 8:57:16 PM PDT by dayglored (Meditate for twenty minutes every day, unless you are too busy, in which case meditate for an hour.)
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