Posted on 06/30/2015 4:51:44 PM PDT by Morgana
While pro-life advocates work to remove tax funded abortions, Princeton University bio-ethicist, Peter Singer says he doesn’t want his tax dollars to pay for disabled babies.
In a radio interview in April with WorldNet Daily’s Aaron Klein, Peter Singer argued it is “reasonable” for government or private insurance companies to deny treatment to severely disabled babies.
Singer is both an advocate for abortion as well as infanticide.
On his faculty page, under the heading: The Sanctity of Human Life, Singer openly argues for infanticide:
“Newborn human babies have no sense of their own existence over time. So killing a newborn baby is never equivalent to killing a person, that is, a being who wants to go on living. That doesn’t mean that it is not almost always a terrible thing to do. It is, but that is because most infants are loved and cherished by their parents, and to kill an infant is usually to do a great wrong to its parents.
“Sometimes, perhaps because the baby has a serious disability, parents think it better that their newborn infant should die. Many doctors will accept their wishes, to the extent of not giving the baby life-supporting medical treatment. That will often ensure that the baby dies. My view is different from this, only to the extent that if a decision is taken, by the parents and doctors, that it is better that a baby should die, I believe it should be possible to carry out that decision, not only by withholding or withdrawing life-support – which can lead to the baby dying slowly from dehydration or from an infection – but also by taking active steps to end the baby’s life swiftly and humanely. “
The video below is from Life Dynamics’ monthly pro-life show Life Talk TV. VIDEO ON LINK
According to WND, asked whether he envisions denying treatment to disabled infants to become more common in the U.S. under the new health-care law, Singer replied: “It does happen. Not necessarily because of costs.”
He continued:
If an infant is born with a massive hemorrhage in the brain that means it will be so severely disabled that if the infant lives it will never even be able to recognize its mother, it won’t be able to interact with any other human being, it will just lie there in the bed and you could feed it but that’s all that will happen, doctors will turn off the respirator that is keeping that infant alive.
I don’t know whether they are influenced by reducing costs. Probably they are just influenced by the fact that this will be a terrible burden for the parents to look after, and there will be no quality of life for the child.
So we are already taking steps that quite knowingly and intentionally are ending the lives of severely disabled infants.
And I think we ought to be more open in recognizing that this happens
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Singer later stated, “I don’t want my health insurance premiums to be higher so that infants who can experience zero quality of life can have expensive treatments.”
Not Dead yet petition Peter Singer
Disability Rights groups have called Singer’s views “bigotry” against the disabled and have launched a petition demanding the Princeton University professor resign over his outspoken support for euthanasia and infanticide.
A decent provision for the poor is the true test of civilization.
~Samuel Johnson, Boswell: Life of Johnson
The most certain test by which we judge whether a country is really free is the amount of security enjoyed by minorities.~John E. E. Dalberg, Lord Acton, The History of Freedom in Antiquity, [1877].
“...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. “ ~ Last Speech of Hubert H. Humphrey
“A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members.” ~ Mahatma Ghandi
“Any society, any nation, is judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members — the last, the least, the littlest.”
~Cardinal Roger Mahony, In a 1998 letter, Creating a Culture of Life
The greatness of America is in how it treats its weakest members: the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped, the underprivileged, the unborn. ~Bill Federer
“A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members and among the most vulnerable are surely the unborn and the dying,”
~Pope John Paul II
Liberals used to run around quoting “A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members.” by Mahatma Ghandi as justification of what was then called the “The Economic Safety Net “, which has now metastasized into the current Welfare Entitlement State.
Things have changed and the Left is now feeling empowered enough to freely to expose it's true agenda
It is so infrequent to find a time to use “misanthrope” in conversation. All one has to do is look at leftism. They will foster entire generations of tax addicted sheep and this jerk admits he doesn’t want t dine to pay for a disabled child. Sick sick people
Same philosophy
No, by no definition is the state the community. By your measure, the federal government is also the community - because “we are the Union” also.
We will never agree on this as long as you believe that it is the government’s job. Why would you select such an incompetent institution to do such important work?
Governments CANNOT be charitable and it is immoral for them to try, because everything they give they take by force from those who earn it...and that is not charity.
I am sorry that your historical ignorance fails to understand the idea of Federalism and what our founders constituted as the state. They intended that the Federal government do very little and only those things the individual states could not, borders, defense and treaties to name a few.
They fully intended that the local and state governments would support an infrastructure for the mentally and physically disabled as that is what they did PRIOR to the revolution.
Your continued harping on the idea that NO government agency should coordinate or provide safety nets for the truly disabled makes Conservatives look heartless and stupid, I suspect you would counter that no we support private charities, AS DO ALL, but no private charity has the ability to do what a local or state government can do and ALL the founders understood this and set up a Federalist system for just that reason.
We are not talking about charity. We are talking about a governments responsibility to its’ least able citizens. Those that can not provide for themselves must be helped by the local and state governments as many would die without such help, even in an altruistic society that gives heavily to private charity.
I gave concrete examples of local, colonial, and state supported institutions established by our founders that provided services to the disabled and infirmed showing precisely that they had no qualms about local and state funds being used for these purposes. You have provided bloviating nonsense straight from your backside.
I wish someone would throw him into the nearest crematorium!
I don’t want tax dollars wasted on adults faking disabilities, but that scam is at record levels.
Knock youswelf out on that semantic wall Jimbo - it is just plain stupid to expect the state to do something so important.
You know what I meant by community - but you dontinue this argument based on a definition that is far from anyone’s definition of community, and you know it.
Your own tag line says you know better...try behaving better.
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You are right. It is far from anyone’s definition of community. It is EVERYONE’S definition of community!
Definition of COMMUNITY: a group of people who live in the same area (such as a city, town, or neighborhood)
1: a unified body of individuals: as
a : state, commonwealth
First definition CITY, TOWN, NEIGHBORHOOD, STATE, COMMONWEALTH.
There is nothing semantic about the meaning or the definition of community. Do you think the Community Pool is run by the local Lutheran Church? No, it is run by the local Town Hall. The Community.
You LOST that argument. You are wrong. To further argue the point makes you look like a buffoon.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/community
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The idea that you think the state and local governments shouldn’t be involved in the care of crippled and disabled children makes you look like a heartless buffoon. You are proposing the exact same thing that Peter Singer is proposing to the exact same result. The condemnation to death of those YOU deem too insignificant to society to expend tax dollars to care for.
“Oh, but their families, church and charities will take care of them.” NO THEY WON’T! They can’t.
No charity or group of charities can do what you are proposing to do, particularly in a country where less than half the people even bother to attend church services on a regular basis.
Caring for the sick, particularly babies and children, is so important the government MUST be involved.
Your ignorance as to the kind of expense associated with the care of a sick or disabled child is legion. You should count yourself fortunate if you have never known first hand the kind of money needed to care for a disabled or special needs child.
No family outside of Bill Gates’ could sustain that kind of expense for long.
Seemingly from your attitude family’s should be driven to destitution by the misfortune of having a sick or special needs kid. They should be forced to beg relatives, friends & fellow worshipers for resources. God forbid your precious tax dollars be spent on their defective spawn.
I suppose they shouldn’t be educated by the state either. They probably shouldn’t be allowed in public.
‘Yuck, who wants to see THOSE people, they are so depressing. Their parents should be ashamed. Too bad they didn’t have an abortion. Then they could afford a new car.’ Welcome to America GilesB style!
The costs associated with sick kids is so extreme certainly no individual charity or even groups of charities could support more than a handful. Even St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital has less than 80 patient beds and they have a billion dollar budget.
Most churches can barely keep the lights on, much less take care of a sick child or several sick children. That doesn’t even bring into account disabled and mentally ill adults. Many of whom would die without constant aid.
It is rich being told to behave better by someone so self consumed and selfish as to think that ‘MY TAX DOLLARS’ are too important to have a place in caring for the least among us; orphans, widows, disabled children and adults.
Yup, I guess I should behave better.
What do you suggest? A session of late night Wilding?
You are truly ignorantr - the programs you laude actuallt do more harm than good.
You have removed your previous tagline:”The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!”; I assume because you reaLized making the foolish, liberal argument you are making while sporting that tag-line makes you look like an ignorant evil, buffoon. Why would anyone want to entrust the most helpless and needy among us to a non-benevolent, malignant, often malevolent ibstitution? - only the most idiotic and/or evil amongst us would do so! I suspect you had the tagline beacause you thought it made you look cool, and conservative and intelligent, here at FR - then you realzed you were ptomoting an argument for the same reasons that contradicted your tag line. I never intended to start an argument with a liberal fool; I was simply reminding you of your own professed standard - don’t blame me if i fire on you while you fly false colors.
Which are you ? Evil, or just stupidly hypocritical?
Everyone’s definition? You mean the community pool is actually run by the STATE????? That is the idiotic claim you are buffoonishly making.
Singer is on my airport list. I’ll crowd fund my legal defense.
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Have you ever actually read your own tag line?
Take some time to educate yourselfregarding the state of cgarities in the US before the welfare state came about, before you start exciriating others and calling them hearetless and greedy (why do you sound so much like a liberal moron?) Start with “The Tragedy og American Compassion” by Marvin Olasky. But maybe all of your education has come from the government THAT would explain much!
Another serial killer with tenure. Hey Pete, your real benefits are on the way.
Yes I have. It is original.
Are you capable of understanding that rarely doesn’t mean never and often doesn’t mean always.
You simply spout off as an ignoramus often does, don’t you?
If you actually had the intellectual fortitude to understand the premise of Olasky’s work, you wouldn’t have brought it up in the context of aiding the handicapped and infirmed.
His premise was specifically referring to the use of the welfare state, AS WELL AS PRIVATE CHARITIES, to aid the poor.
He was not talking about eliminating or never having government involvement in the care of the mentally and physically ill or disabled.
He gave as much disdain to those who write checks to private charities but never worked with the poor as he did to the Great Society programs. ALL of his theme revolved around POVERTY PROGRAMS. Not aid to the infirmed and disabled. Those who are incapable of aiding themselves in normal society.
As for education. I am all but certain that my education was significantly better than yours based solely on your inability to proof read your own posts.
Thankfully my private school education from Kindergarten to Graduate School enabled me to deduce your clouded thought process even with the poor grammar, improper sentence structure and atrocious spelling. (You do know that there is a spell check feature available on Free Republic?)
You are obviously too self centered and too stupid to understand basic thought. Be gone before you further beclown yourself for all to see.
For your benefit beclown is a verb that means: to make a comment or express an opinion that is so profoundly witless, senseless and obtuse, that you have forever after defined yourself as a person of comical value only.
I have not removed my tag line you silly git!
City Hospitals do more harm than good? We should allow the destitute and sick to die for lack of medical care?
You are angry because you have been exposed as a worthless wretch with little or no humanity and even less intelligence.
Be gone clown!
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