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To: peyton randolph

[ There is still the chance that a Convention of States can bring the government under control.

Question: If all three branches of the federal government refuse to obey the existing Constitution, why would they obey an amended Constitution? ]

At this point the real reason for Article V is to place clear concise limits on the Fed-Gov complex that if they Ignore it completely, this creates a situation where the states are fully justified in either banding together and sending troops to DC in order to dismantle the machine by force or they are fully justified in banding together and just leaving the Union. That way they can point tot he Constitution and point toe h blatant violations the same way the colonists could point out the violations that King George III did.


67 posted on 06/23/2015 2:27:34 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: GraceG

Before you see a mustering of state troops, recall that the same parties running DC are the same parties running the states.

The gravy train starts in DC and goes to the states. States are not going to derail that.


106 posted on 06/23/2015 2:39:23 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: GraceG

-— At this point the real reason for Article V is to place clear concise limits on the Fed-Gov complex that if they Ignore it completely, this creates a situation where the states are fully justified in either banding together and sending troops to DC in order to dismantle the machine by force or they are fully justified in banding together -—

Yup.


109 posted on 06/23/2015 2:40:15 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: GraceG
where the states are fully justified in either banding together and sending troops to DC in order to dismantle the machine by force or they are fully justified in banding together and just leaving the Union.

Why waste time giving yet one more chance to fedgov as power is consolidated in DC?

If voluntary peaceful secession is a good idea, why not simply do it now?

Under any scenario, is there realistically going to be a meeting of the minds between the fascist left and small government conservatives on any issue? Wouldn't be better to simply walk away now than try to stay together in a broken system that's irreparably divided ideologically?

140 posted on 06/23/2015 2:51:46 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Hillary Kardashian Clinton - famous for being infamous)
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To: GraceG

Exactly. Until we have an army, and I mean an armed army, we will never return to our original constitution.


183 posted on 06/23/2015 3:24:20 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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