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[Redux Church of Scientology Tract July 7, 2012] (Aurora, Colorado) Another Mass Shooting, Another P
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Posted on 06/18/2015 12:51:59 PM PDT by concernedcitizen76

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To: SJackson

That’s pathetic. An opioid addict abusing suboxone is like an alcoholic abusing Sterno.


41 posted on 06/18/2015 2:16:12 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: FredZarguna

There were quite a few links in that article.
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/suboxone/aggression


42 posted on 06/18/2015 2:22:07 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: FredZarguna

I got the infowars link from Drudge, btw.


43 posted on 06/18/2015 2:23:32 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: TigersEye

Follow the money. These psychiatric drugs are hugely profitable, and it’s no surprise that the major pharmaceutical companies who rely on these drugs for big profits are top contributors to leading Democrats and Republicans in Congress, their parties and their PACS.


44 posted on 06/18/2015 2:23:46 PM PDT by concernedcitizen76 (Term limits. Repeal the 16th and 17th amendments. Sunset bureaucracies.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Exactly.

What percentage of people on these drugs go around doing mass shootings?

What percentages of people who do mass shootings might not have done them if their mental illness was sufficiently treated?

And what percentage of people are going to go off the rails and do insane acts regardless of what measures are put up to stop them?


45 posted on 06/18/2015 2:32:21 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: SauronOfMordor

Or the fact that people who later shoot up places have been seen by psychiatrists for their behavior before the shootings, and the drugs weren’t effective enough to stop their behavior or mental problems.


46 posted on 06/18/2015 2:36:01 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: concernedcitizen76

bkmk


47 posted on 06/18/2015 2:40:32 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: FredZarguna

now they use prisons.


48 posted on 06/18/2015 3:12:44 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: concernedcitizen76
On the other hand, CCHR, a Scientology™ front group, thinks the proper way to deal with mental illness is to hold two soup cans in your hands and answer absurd questions about your past lives.
49 posted on 06/18/2015 3:31:37 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: SJackson

Exactly. He didn’t need Suboxone to be a crazy people hater.


50 posted on 06/18/2015 3:37:04 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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To: concernedcitizen76

Failure to monitor...

“Local Marine Brings Awareness to Overmedicated Veterans With Photography Project”

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Operation-Overmed-Mike-Whiter-Medical-Marijuana-Veterans-Marine-Philadelphia-308022541.html


51 posted on 06/18/2015 3:43:52 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: FredZarguna
32+ million Americans using anti-depressant drugs. Number of murders by prescription holders last night: 1.
Number of Americans in households owning guns: 153 million.

All the shooters owned, or had access to, a gun. Therefore, according to your logic ... what?

My logic is that they don't give us all the side effects of these drugs. -Tom

52 posted on 06/18/2015 3:56:39 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: I want the USA back
antidepressants generally target the production or use of serotonin in the brain

Depression is treatable as a physical malady

Many psychiatrists seek to treat the organic cause before or in addition to treating the emotional state, in hope of over the long term, bringing the emotional state of the body back to the point where it can produce the hormones needed to restore normal chemical balance. But sometimes the risks of not taking the quickest path to restoring chemical balance, by using meds, is to lose the patient to suicide. And some illnesses (schizophrenia, bipolarity, severe depression) require a lifetime of pharmaceutical support in hopes of allowing the patient to enjoy a productive quality existence,

Some need lifelong chemical medical support to maintain normal brain function

Unfortunately one treatment plan does nor suit all patients so there is a lot of trial and error. Sometimes the error can be terrible but to not make the attempt to find a successful plan of therapy using medication is also terrible

Saying that all depression drugs “mask” underlying problems is like saying insulin “masks” diabetes and an MD can talk someone out of being diabetic

It's much harder to accept unless you have a)been depressed and been successfully treated or b)had to live with someone who was severely depressed and watched them struggle or even lost them when they self-medicated on drugs and alcohol

53 posted on 06/18/2015 4:16:39 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Capt. Tom
Suicidal and homicidal thoughts are symptomatic of the illnesses they treat.

The proper placement of a horse is in front of the cart, not behind a wagon being pulled by Scientologists and their front groups.

54 posted on 06/18/2015 4:25:33 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: silverleaf
All true and well said, but there is another use of SSRI's that doctors have prescribed for millions of people over about two decades, the entire purpose of which is to treat an illness which is entirely defined by symptoms [and treating the symptom does effect the cure.]

That is in the treatment of chronic insomnia, and especially in middle and terminal insomnia, which have been effectively "cured" by SSRI's at dosages much lower than for clinical episodes of Affective Disorder and historically have proven remarkably intractable to other therapies.

55 posted on 06/18/2015 4:33:13 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: Capt. Tom

in the side effects they say “May cause suicidal thoughts”. —

Yep, and also “diarrhea and constipation”. Which may be then lead to the suicidal thoughts?


56 posted on 06/18/2015 4:46:08 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (an icon of resistance within the oppressed patriots, who represent resilience in the face of SSV)
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To: concernedcitizen76

Wow


57 posted on 06/18/2015 4:51:05 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: arbitrary.squid

Yes, it used to be that if someone was seen to be seriously disturbed, that he was locked up or at least kept under close supervision. Drugs may give a false sense that he’s under control — until he isn’t.


58 posted on 06/18/2015 5:34:35 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: concernedcitizen76

Different set of drugs entirely, different set of conditions, different treatment protocols. You are, quite simply, lying.


59 posted on 06/18/2015 6:44:00 PM PDT by discostu (In fact funk's as old as dirt)
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To: discostu

Do you work for the pharmaceutical industry? If so, I can understand your myopia.


60 posted on 06/18/2015 7:09:17 PM PDT by concernedcitizen76 (Term limits. Repeal the 16th and 17th amendments. Sunset bureaucracies.)
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