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To: Talisker; All

I just no longer think we sent PEOPLE to the moon - I think it was remote equipment. (Talisker)


First it was the camera, then it’s the Radiation Belt, now it’s this little bombshell.

Where to start...where to start.

I’m guessing that since you believe people didn’t land on the moon (just probes and equipment) then you must explain the live coverage, pictures and film of the astronauts on the lunar surface. I’d take that you believe it was all faked (ie: a sound studio)?

How so, considering the characteristics of (1) low gravity, (2) lunar dust displays (3) Apollo 15 “hammer vs feather” display (4) zero atmosphere, (5) photographs (shadow angles, pictures in shadow, no stars, etc.,) and (6) floating in zero G.

FYI: Not all of the pictures were “pristine and pure”. A little digging in the NASA archives will show less than perfect photos.

In 1969, the tech wasn’t there to fake the lunar landings.

Apollo and the Van Allen Radiation Belts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BEylTGOlQ8

Moon Landings Faked? Filmmaker Says Not!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs

Reactions on lunar gravity.

How the Apollo Flags “Flapped in the Breeze”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtkIs0RkrAc

Proof We Landed on the Moon: It’s In the Dust:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdfSoWb6W54

Hammer throw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdr_gj20Gc4

Lunar gravity
Various lunar gravity examples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxZMjpMhwNE

Apollo 15: Hammer & Feather drop (Astronaut Dave Scott)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gucr_OfzQ6M


71 posted on 06/17/2015 7:46:51 PM PDT by ak267
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To: ak267

Another excellent point made by an Apollo astronaut: “Russia would have been thrilled to prove those landings were faked. The full might of the KGB could only verify the authenticity”.


73 posted on 06/17/2015 7:54:08 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: ak267
Where to start...where to start...

(1) low gravity

Film slowed down (but not enough, jumps don't correlate with how high they'd go if they were in true 1/6 gravity)

(2) lunar dust displays

Large low-pressure room, film slowed down, also dust didn't go high enough to properly represent 1/6 gravity)

(3) Apollo 15 “hammer vs feather” display

Large low-pressure room, for the feather as close to vacuum as possible.

(4) zero atmosphere

Pump it out. Probably can't get to zero, but who knows? What if it's done in a converted subterranean military chamber - blast doors on either side could bear something very close to actual vacuum.

(5) photographs (shadow angles, pictures in shadow, no stars, etc.,)

LOL, that's on my side - many, many problems with those things discussed everywhere.

(6) floating in zero G.

Low Earth orbit with blacked-out windows -as far as perhaps they actually went before splashing back down a week later. Slip-ups on the bright Earth outside a window when they were supposedly halfway to the moon have already been found.

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I admit being shocked and pissed when I finally decided I no longer believed the standard story. But unlike most tinfoil wearers, I don't have a "thing" about it. What I think is that the whole push for the moon was for certain political purposes. And so, being political, when the technology didn't prove up to snuff, they just lied about it. I don't see this as unusual or rare. A bummer, yes, but hardly incomprehensible. The government has nothing but contempt for the People, it lies to them as a matter of course.

And more lies are always necessary continue to support the original lie. For example, there's a long scene in the movie Apollo 13 where they've turned off the power and it's freezing cold - when the truth is that they'd be roasting in a tin can. That's WHY the fuel had to be mixed in the first place, and the spacecraft rotated, because otherwise one side would heat up. What they needed was A/C units to cool them off through radiator panels. So why lie about this fundamental issue in the movie? I mean, it's huge.

Well, how about the same problem on the moon? How did those guys stay cool? Their backpacks had to provide power and A/C, but then where did all the heat go? Supposedly it would blow out as steam, but then you have to carry around water as well, and they had no umbilicals. And they certainly didn't have giant radiator panels sticking out from them. Nor do any photos show the backpacks releasing steam - as they did in training videos.

People don't realize how much heat is a problem in space. The International Space Station has all sorts of panels sticking out that everyone thinks are solar panels. Wrong. A huge number of them radiate heat away from the station, to keep the crew from being cooked. In fact, heat control is a huge part of what they do each day, making sure the panels are angled appropriately. But no one talks about this.

I'm not saying they don't have recirculating A/C units - now. But they go on space walks and then when there's a problem they almost drown, because of the water they take with them to cool off. And they recharge those units in the station. But on the moon, fifty years ago, sitting in a capsule the size of a closet? How did they cool off with no water? Or recharge their units with what power?

Nah. Too many problems with the story. It's always something crucial that NASA treats trivially or never mentions, over and over again, thing after thing. It's like watching a Clinton lie unravel layer after layer after layer without end, but everyone just shrugs.

Whatever. It's not like it matters at this point. Maybe the Muslims that now represent NASA's mission will find a way there - and then start throwing rocks down on us.

76 posted on 06/17/2015 8:18:51 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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