[Finny]

I think the cops were probably stunned that the bikers (well at least one) decided to have a gunfight with so much police presence around the restaurant.

Ya think? SIX cop cars, clearly marked and plainly visible?

I'm stunned that so many people actually believe that even one or two of these so-called "criminal" bikers would be so stupid, let alone a crowd of so-called bad-ass "professional" criminals of organized criminal enterprises. HELLO???? Anybody home?????

Don-o, Bandit, there's only ONE THING you need to know, and it is a fact that is not in dispute: Only one third of the 177 arrested even had a criminal record. ONLY ONE THIRD!

Only someone very, very out of touch with reality would entertain the notion that an even half-way hardened criminal over the age of 23, let alone a dangerous bad-ass-biker type criminal, wouldn't have a criminal record as long as your arm. TOTALLY LUDICROUS. The fact that so very few even had a criminal record is ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.

The rest of it -- half a dozen marked cop cars in plain view, conflicting reports of gunfire sounds, the official police story changing dramatically in the first days, lack of bruising on the mug shots of those arrested, the MILLION DOLLAR bail, the extreme vagueness of "weapons found at the scene" that include perfectly legal items --

-- all of those things are only details. ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW is that only a third of these supposed dangerous hardened criminals, even had prior records. -- even ignoring all of that

What is happening here is people like Bandit missing the forest because they are so carefully considering each tree.

[don-o]

"None of the Officers were assigned in a sniper capacity and all Officers were in their vehicles at the time the suspects began the shooting. Those Officers were stationed in the parking lots adjacent to the Twin Peaks and were visible to patrons entering the Twin Peaks parking lot. There were 6 marked Waco Police units and 4 unmarked Waco Police vehicles. This does not include DPS vehicles. There were also Texas Department of Public Safety Officers assigned to the event as well."

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Here's a little piece of info from Chief Brent Stroman's Friday brief. Sitting in their vehicles...Really? In light of the intel Swanton claimed to have that bad actors were planning to jump ugly?

They are sitting in their vehicles?