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Bill Whitaker: Wacoans to learn plenty about bikers, ballistics and the Bill of Rights...
Waco Tribune ^ | June 14, 2015 | BILL WHITAKER Opinion editor

Posted on 06/14/2015 8:00:04 AM PDT by don-o

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Bill Whitaker: Wacoans to learn plenty about bikers, ballistics and the Bill of Rights as due process rolls forward in the Twin Peaks case
1 posted on 06/14/2015 8:00:04 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

Well CNN also call them Brave and Courageous?


2 posted on 06/14/2015 8:08:24 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: don-o

Who cares if they wear their “colors”? It is nice when the bad guys are clearly labeled. I think law enforcement should be allowed to profile and businesses should be able to refuse service or sales to guys wearing “colors.” The only problem with that is the real biker guys are bad guys and want to mess up someone wearing colors in their area regardless of who may be around just like these moronic Mexican gangs. The wanna bes who dress like motorcycle gang members are a taco short of a platter too.


3 posted on 06/14/2015 8:09:10 AM PDT by rey
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To: IC Ken

Them? I think you may be referring to Crazy Man in Dallas. Aren’t you?


4 posted on 06/14/2015 8:09:46 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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The cops were only doing their job. Of course nobody is all bad, even Barrack Obama isn’t all bad but that’s the nature of evil.


5 posted on 06/14/2015 8:11:04 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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If firing 14 rounds into a fighting mob is “doing their job” well, All righty then. Let’s hear what the R of E was going in.

One thing that I caught from the Friday presser what that the Chief denied that any snipers were included in the LE deployment.

Wonder why not.


6 posted on 06/14/2015 8:17:13 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Did you just assume / make up that fact.


7 posted on 06/14/2015 8:20:27 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I rely on memory. Will try to find a quote.

And I resent being called a liar. I have been here a while. You are the very first person who has ever accused me of making up facts.


8 posted on 06/14/2015 8:23:14 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

That the cops indiscriminately fired into a crowd? Offended?


9 posted on 06/14/2015 8:27:49 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: don-o

You again wrongly try to interpret this newspaper report and its conclusion as some defense of bike gangs. It was not re-enforcing your failing contention that Bandidos, Cossack, etc. bike gangs were just misunderstood law abiding citizens and were at Twin Peaks, armed to the teeth, to discuss MOTORCYCLE SAFETY only to be ambushed by a horde of bloodthirsty cops just waiting for any excuse.


10 posted on 06/14/2015 8:30:35 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Of course nobody is all bad, even Barrack Obama isn’t all bad but that’s the nature of evil.

Finding significant parts of Obama that are not bad is a challenging task that I have not yet accomplished. I see that he is a much better golfer than I am, apparently an adequate father, and completely loyal to his hidden faith. Otherwise, he is so close to all bad that I have not found even one area where he is good.

11 posted on 06/14/2015 8:33:07 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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The fatherhood part is about all he’s got going on the good side. Time will tell on that.


12 posted on 06/14/2015 8:36:20 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: X-spurt

Poster ignored.


13 posted on 06/14/2015 8:43:20 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

If these ~200 Evil Doers were so well known to LE, why weren’t they in the hoosegow before this event?


14 posted on 06/14/2015 8:46:03 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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Police are trained to shoot to kill, not to ‘wound’. The object of firing a weapon is to terminate a threat as quickly and efficiently as possible. For an individual officer with a handgun, that means firing hollow-point bullets (banned by the Geneva Conventions) into the center of mass (chest) as many times as required until the threat is ended.

Police armed with scoped, silenced, M-16 and/or M-4 rifles are required to do the same thing: shoot to kill, not wound.

The police fired 12 rifle rounds intending to kill as many as 12 individuals in the center of the melee. Are we to assume the police are incompetent at hitting man-sized targets at less than 50 yards with a scoped rifle?

So why do the press and police continue to imply that although the police intended to kill 12 people, the only deaths and injuries resulted from the ‘gang members’?

This story still stinks without even considering the constitutional issue of arresting people based on their choice of clothing.

We are being spun and misled at every opportunity by law enforcement.


15 posted on 06/14/2015 8:49:24 AM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Did you just assume / make up that fact.

Stroman disputed rumors that Waco PD had snipers on the scene and said, “We did not fire indiscriminately into the crowd.”

16 posted on 06/14/2015 8:50:19 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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17 posted on 06/14/2015 8:51:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: don-o
Even the bikers say that the gun fight started with gang members. Were the police supposed to sit idly by and wait for the gun fight to reach a logical conclusion?

I know it doesn't work with your narrative that now the police are stating that only three police fired, and those three fired a total of 12 rounds. So what will your response be when the autopsies the come back?

18 posted on 06/14/2015 8:54:46 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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I do not have a narrative.

If you will read my posting, you will see that my main interest is in the Constitutional issues that the incident raises.

I think it was yesterday that I raised the question of whether the law under which they were arrested and placed under $1,000,000 bonds will hold up. Saying that how a person is dressed gives probable cause to arrest seems to fly in the face of the First Amendment.

I wonder if it has ever been done before.


19 posted on 06/14/2015 9:03:38 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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So what will your response be when the autopsies the come back?

I guess that would depend on what is (or is not) in them.

20 posted on 06/14/2015 9:06:10 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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