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To: RinaseaofDs

Your statement is ridiculous. If entropy always increases, then there would be no planets, no stars, no galaxies, no elements heavier than lithium and beryllium.

Entropy decreases in systems where there are forces at play capable of capturing or converting energy into complexity.

Gravity causes matter to clump, entropy decreases in those localities. Large clumps form stars, smaller clumps around stars form planets, entropy decreases in those localities. Stars fuse light atoms into heavier atoms, decreasing entropy in that locality. Many stars eventually explode distributing heavy elements throughout the universe, which then condense into stars and rocky and gaseous planets, entropy decreases in those localities. Elements on cooling planets react with other chemicals, with energy input from starlight and residual heat energy from the planets’ cores to form complex molecules, entropy decreases in those localities.

The entire Universe refutes your hypothesis. The only thing required for entropy to decrease is capture of energy, and there is plenty of energy and ways to capture energy available. Mars is dead because it is too far from the sun and has cooled to the point where there is insufficient local energy for complex chemicals to react.


46 posted on 06/09/2015 9:52:06 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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To: Go_Raiders

“Gravity causes matter to clump,.......”
“Gravity causes matter to clump.....”
“Gravity causes matter to clump.....”
“Gravity causes matter to clump.....”

I don’t know who re-opened this thread, but when it first appeared I couldn’t get past, “Gravity causes matter to clump.....”
It reminds me of, “what came first, the chicken or the egg?” I mean, without clumps, there is no matter and without matter there are no clumps, and without gravity there are no clumps, and without matter there is no gravity...............
So, what is this “causes” you refer to, and are you saying that Gravity is God?


91 posted on 06/11/2015 5:43:35 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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