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19 disgusting things I learned about the Duggars from their TV interview... and counting
dailymail.uk ^ | 4 June 2015 | Piers Morgan for MailOnline

Posted on 06/05/2015 9:12:23 AM PDT by Morgana

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To: JohnnyM

“And the Duggars did not hide it. The son came to them, ashemed of what he had done. They counciled him on it and notified the police voluntarily.”

Fiction.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/05/23/a-timeline-of-the-molestation-allegations-against-josh-duggar/

At no time did Josh confess without being first confronted. And the behavior repeated itself even after he was cautioned against it the first time.


141 posted on 06/05/2015 2:09:39 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: unlearner

“What the parents did represents failure as parents, but they are not mandatory reporters and did not commit a “cover up” crime as has been repeatedly claimed.”

they covered it up to get money from TLC. Why not tell TLC? “Next week on 16 Kids and Counting Mrs Duggar reveals that The oldest son Josh has been molesting some of the sisters! Stay tuned and see how it is handled!” Yea you think that show would have aired?

“Anger and hatred has been directed at the victims as well.”

As it should be. Now other victims of incest will suffer due to these misfits. Yes Jesus said to forgive those who did you harm, but that is a far cry from having to stay silent about it so that your parents can make millions from a stupid TV show while you suffer in silence. Their parents used religion to keep them quite while they raked in the bucks. Meanwhile Josh did it again and they finally got smart and sent him away.

I have no respect for these brain washed, brain dead women. I got out of a religion just like it and so can they.


142 posted on 06/05/2015 2:12:27 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Black Agnes

not fiction. Read the report. The report that has been released is from the 2006 investigation by the police. On page 14 of the report, where the first interview is written down, it says that Josh came to the parents upset and confessed to what he had done.


143 posted on 06/05/2015 2:19:42 PM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: Fuzz

Lot had a lot of problems (no pun intended) but God called him “just” in 2 Peter 2:7 and rescued him from destruction. I would rather be among the righteous than among the Sodomites.


144 posted on 06/05/2015 2:29:10 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: JohnnyM

After he was confronted. Mom and dad knew in March of 02 they had a ‘toucher’ in the family. Do you think they played possum till July with that many girls under one roof?

Even so, he repeated and escalated the behavior. It went from touching sleeping sisters on top of clothing to forcibly fondling the fully awake 8yr old sister in the laundry room after he picked her up and placed her on the washer/dryer.

I find it suspicious that Josh himself hasn’t said anything about all of this. Instead he sends out his parents and the victims to do damage control...

And I still want to know where he learned this stuff. I find it ‘interesting’ that a close family friend went away for kiddie porn in the 2-13yrs female age range. What sort of contact did this person have with preteen/pubescent Josh? Did they have any fishing trips, camping trips or other incidents where Josh would have been exposed to highly inappropriate pictures and videos that gave him ideas with his preschool sister(s)? Also interesting is that in ‘07 the trooper was sent away for kiddie porn the first time. Late ‘06/’07 is when the FINS investigation would have been conducted. Maybe Josh outed the trooper then.

It is interesting that the Duggars know so many people like this (ex preacher for instance). Perhaps for the same reason bank robbers rob banks, that’s where the money is. Pedos insinuate themselves with large families with tired and overworked moms and dads for a reason...

But one thing is for sure. Trickle truth will eat this family up. And is.


145 posted on 06/05/2015 2:30:55 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: petitfour

His dad should have bought him a small herd of sheep and made him tend them every night.

Problem solved.


146 posted on 06/05/2015 2:39:01 PM PDT by miserare (Rest in Peace, Officer Kerrie Orozco.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Bad move—sending him to the grandparents.

Incestuous pedophilia is usually generational.


147 posted on 06/05/2015 2:43:45 PM PDT by miserare (Rest in Peace, Officer Kerrie Orozco.)
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To: Morgana

“they covered it up to get money from TLC”

You have absolutely no idea WHY they did what they did. Do you think everyone who pursues a TV or film career has evil motives? Do you think everyone who tries to make money has evil motives? Do you think anyone on TV has a duty to share their most intimate and private personal experiences with you? Do you think the victims in this case should be outed?

” ‘Anger and hatred has been directed at the victims as well.’ As it should be.”

Wow. Never really expected you to come out and admit this. I doubted you would even admit it to yourself. But if you think the VICTIMS deserve hatred, you have serious issues that discredit pretty much everything you are posting on this subject. You are not looking at this issue through tinted or distorted lenses. You are just blinded by your own bitterness.

I seem to recall you saying you had been victimized in a similar way. If so, I hope you find healing and admire your courage for speaking out. However, wishing hatred toward the victims in this case means you, by your own sense of morality, deserve hatred and animosity directed your way. Hope you open your eyes to your own self-destructive attitude before you get what you wish for.


148 posted on 06/05/2015 2:47:07 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: JohnnyM

“So did the Duggars”

arguably not, given that it happened in their family and people seem to be tripping all over themselves to say “it’s only curiosity” and “it happens all the time and isn’t that bad”.

my contention is that if it happens once, that’s once too many times, and curiosity is a kid wondering what it might look like or feel like without actually, you know, looking or touching.


149 posted on 06/05/2015 2:47:36 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: Oliviaforever

He completely invented those stats.


150 posted on 06/05/2015 2:47:59 PM PDT by miserare (Rest in Peace, Officer Kerrie Orozco.)
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To: jarwulf
Jim Bob took Josh to speak with a state trooper he knew personally about what had happened. The trooper gave Josh “a very stern talk” but didn’t file a report, reportedly reasoning that nothing needed to be done because Josh had already gone through a treatment program.

This was after the 4 months of rehabilitation rehabbing someone's house in 2003. This was the cop that went to jail.

The police report that was obtained from 2006 is when the Oprah staff notified the police. The police went TO the Duggars. The statue of limitations had expired since there was no evidence that he had molested anyone after 2003.

151 posted on 06/05/2015 2:50:11 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: miserare
Bad move—sending him to the grandparents.

Incestuous pedophilia is usually generational.

That would explain why sending him to live with the grandparents that were close by was off the table.

I think it was Jimbob not wanting to relinquish control.

152 posted on 06/05/2015 2:52:57 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Fuzz

Good answer!

Oh, those Old Testament patriarchs!

And the Got-hard men are supposed to imitate them.


153 posted on 06/05/2015 2:59:37 PM PDT by miserare (Rest in Peace, Officer Kerrie Orozco.)
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To: Thank You Rush

What about the things that members of the Duggar have said regarding those incidents? Did they make it all up?


154 posted on 06/05/2015 3:00:00 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Black Agnes

Or both


155 posted on 06/05/2015 3:01:13 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Black Agnes
Reading the redacted report and reading the transcript of the Megyn Kelly interview, there are two possibilities.

Here is the redacted entry in the report:

"James said that in March of 2002, [redacted] who had just [redacted], came to him very upset and crying. James said that [redacted] had told him that he had been sneaking into [redacted] room at night and had been touching [redacted] on the breasts and vaginal areas while they were sleeping."

The report can be read in one of two ways, due to the redaction. Either Josh came to them crying, confessing to his parents what he had done, or one of the girls came to them crying telling them what Josh had done. In the police interviews with the girls, there is no mention of them telling their parents what had happened in the first incident. They were all asleep at the time he did it. There was a mention of one of them being half-asleep and thinking Josh was taking their covers, but no one was crying or went to the parents. They also claim that Josh confessed in the March of 2002 incident.

In the Kelly interview, the parents claim that it was Josh that confessed to them and not one of the girls.

As far as I can tell, from everything that has been released, it was Josh who confessed in March of 2002 to his parents. He was not confronted. His parents found it about it when he told them.

Josh is the one who confessed
156 posted on 06/05/2015 3:01:53 PM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: Snickering Hound

Sick and sicker!


157 posted on 06/05/2015 3:04:24 PM PDT by miserare (Rest in Peace, Officer Kerrie Orozco.)
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To: Abby4116
Jim Bob took Josh to speak with a state trooper he knew personally about what had happened. The trooper gave Josh “a very stern talk” but didn’t file a report, reportedly reasoning that nothing needed to be done because Josh had already gone through a treatment program.

This was after the 4 months of rehabilitation rehabbing someone's house in 2003. This was the cop that went to jail.

That just doesn't make much sense. Why send Josh to a cop that could potentially put him in the Juvenile Justice system if he was "cured"?

The rehab program actually was a Gothard facility in Little Rock that needed refurbishment, it was agreed upon by Jimbob and church elders.

I think Jimbob went to this cop that had done favors for him before to read Josh the riot act because he was still molesting.

Jimbob asked for it to be off the record to keep Josh out of the Juvenile Justice System and the pedophile cop gets excited hearing Josh detail the molestation and scaring him so he wouldn't want him out of reach in the Juvenile System either.

I don't think it's likely that Jimbob knew of the cops pedophilia, he just thought he was a nice helpful guy he could trust.

158 posted on 06/05/2015 3:04:43 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: JohnnyM

The part where the parents aren’t truthful in the interview is this. In the interview they stated it was just curiousity and touching them while they were asleeep and over their clothes.

Directly contradicted by the police report stating the 8yr old was awake and forcibly fondled under NEATH her clothes.

I’m sure there are other incidents where I could find direct, material, contradictions with their sworn statements to the police in ‘06.

I suspect the police report is the *least* of what happened in the whole affair. We’ll never know, and it should NOT have been released in the way that it was. However, as I’ve stated upthread, JimBob outclevered himself when he let the statute of limitations expire before any official statements were made other than to the ‘family friend’ trooper, apparently off the record. Had JimBob done the right thing at the right time, ALL records would have been sealed by juvie court and no one would have any idea.

JimBob has hurt both Josh and his sisters with all this. Both of them needed a PARENT. What they got was the watergate plumbers. And just as apt.


159 posted on 06/05/2015 3:06:55 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Snickering Hound

As I watched the interview, the wife escorted Megyn into the kitchen. Megyn had her back to the open livingroom door.

JimBob did a quick drive-by to check out Megyn’s butt! Yes, his eyes were looking there.

(She was in a red shirt and black leotard.)

He is such a lech!


160 posted on 06/05/2015 3:07:13 PM PDT by miserare (Rest in Peace, Officer Kerrie Orozco.)
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