[Jan_Sobieski]

Bill Gothard was truly a false teacher and led many astray, however I do not know the extent of the Duggar's involvement in this group to accuse them.

You are begrudging them for teaching their children to only kiss and hold hands with their husbands/wives? Really?

You are also going to begrudge them for teaching their kids to dress modestly? I am not into the dress thing, but would I castigate those who do? By no means!

covetousness and schadenfreude can masquerade as righteous indignation. The pitch and tenor of the attacks leveled on a repentant sinner who seems to have turned his life around tells me that there are strange emotions at work here...

Once again, how can you accuse me of false witness when all I did was speculate? Aren't you guilty of what you are leveling at me?

[DariusBane]

Well Josh Duggars brother in law oa the ATI director... They are regularly featured speakers at ATI events. They reccomend ATI home school curriculum. Etc.

[CatherineofAragon]

I’m not accusing the Duggars of anything; it’s pretty common knowledge that they follow Gothard.

And I don’t “begrudge” them the way they bring up their children; it’s their choice. But I’m free to comment on it, and I think it’s strange and extreme.

One can dress modestly without being covered neck to feet. Legalism is a trap. Again, they can do what they want, but IMO it’s strange. The fact that Gothard tells women how to dress, how to wear their hair, etc. is more proof that the whole thing is a cult.

How do you know Josh Duggar is repentant? Have you talked to him? He came clean because the mess was made public. If he’s truly repentant, good for him, but neither you nor I can judge that.

Once again, as on other threads, I note that all of the crying and wailing is over poor Josh and his parents, with very little, if any, left over for the victims.