[MadIsh32]

Gaffney is a loon.

This article is spot on that this group is very collectivist and statist. However this group also enjoys kiling Muslims, so its all good on FR

[BlackElk]

This article is balderdash. Pacifist weenies posing as conservatives could never win the argument against actual conservatives who favor a robust foreign policy of interventionism when useful and a military far stronger than any other to back it up. So the weenies latched onto the term "neoconservative" to cook up conspiracy theories as to why it was a bad thing that the 1930s socialists had converted to actual conservatism in defense of Western Civilization in the 1970s.

The one point made in this article that made sense was that the conversions were formalized when George McGovern and other communists seized permanent control of the Demonrat Party. The "neoconservatives" knew their old communist enemies well and became Republicans to give the party intellectual heft in its struggle with the Demonrats.

The 1930s are dead and gone forever. We no longer have to trudge through the world dragging the carcass of Herbert Hoover's massive failures and making believe they were successes. Imagine if paleocons had been running WW II. Would you rather teach your children German or Japanese as their everyday language?

National defense and, frequently, interventionism are legitimate constitutional functions of the central government. Many paleocons would ally with the remnants of the anti-war New Left to deny that fact. That alone disqualifies the paleocons from the conservative movement. This is why the now retired Ron Paul was NEVER to be taken seriously. This is why Rand Paul has effectively rejected his father's looney tune notions as to foreign and military policy. Rand may not be a modern day Curtis LeMay but he has made definite progress on those issues.

[Zionist Conspirator]

This article is spot on that this group is very collectivist and statist.

So are the white racial collectivists who attack them.

However this group also enjoys kiling Muslims, so its all good on FR

[sarc]Well, obviously we are on "the wrong side" in the Middle East . . . just like we were on "the wrong side" in World War II. And Francis Parker Yockey thought we were on "the wrong side" in the Cold War! After all, the Commies were hanging Jews and supporting the Arabs.

Moslems--the protectors of White Western Womanhood against those e--vil, water-fluoridating JOOOOOOS![/sarc]