[JRandomFreeper]

There is an attitude that extra judicial punishment is ok. That attitude extends to FR.

It's not up to the cops to apply punishment. It's up to the courts. If they don't do it as you like, change it, don't dump it.

Extra-Judicial punishment is always wrong.

People that advocate it are not espousing conservative values. Conservatives are supposed to believe in the rule of law.

/johnny

[Usagi_yo]

It’s another more sinister sense of entitlement that cops have grown accustomed too.

I certainly don’t advocate extra judicial punishment.

I only advocate a non-judicial military type of punishment that can be meted out to misguided cops from somewhere outside the general chain of authority and supersede a “self investigation” report.

[ExTxMarine]

Extra-Judicial punishment is always wrong.

I agree, and in these incidents, where a passenger was not buckled in is simply WRONG!

I believe that most people on FR are against THESE types of actions; however, we are not against cops using whatever force is needed to get criminals off the streets, i.e., if a criminal resists arrest - there is a good chance that he is going to get roughed up, if a criminal runs - there is a good chance that he is going to get roughed up, if a criminal pulls a weapon or attempts to take the cops weapon - they should be SHOT, etc...

The primary problem is that many people equate the latter items with the former items and those are NOT the same and are NOT related (typically). But in our society today, cops are supposed to handle a 27 year old murder suspect with kindergarten gloves, and if the cops didn't treat him like a 5 year old child, then this murder and all of his other crimes should just be ignored, forgotten, and forgiven.

[Night Hides Not]

Sounds like there’s a Floyd Ferris wannabe in the highest levels of the Baltimore PD.

[Wallace T.]

Extra judicial punishment has been in place for a vary long time. In the early 1900s, many police agencies engaged in the "third degree", severely beating suspects in order to extract confessions. These incidents received widespread publicity in the 1930s, and the practice was curtailed. Water boarding was extensively used as well as a tool to get suspect to confess; the Bush, Jr., administration did not invent this practice. It was extensively used during the Philippine Insurrection, far more intensely and less restrictively than in the Iraqi and Afghan wars. These tactics were brought home to police agencies.

As long as there are criminals, police, and lenient judges, these practices will continue.