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For all we spend on education, why don't they learn manners?
Pioneer Press ^ | 4-19-15 | Joe Soucheray

Posted on 04/20/2015 5:49:31 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

The elephant on the Green Line trains is the behavior of many of the young people who ride the trains: appalling profanity, an utter disregard for the tidiness of the carriages, the blatant freeloading. To the last, it has not even been a year of operating yet and there is a passenger constituency so accustomed to not paying that a train ride might as well be another in a long list of entitlements. Our elected worthies seem disinclined to point this out. In the meantime, our governor, Mark Dayton, when he is not championing the return of the umlauts to the road signs in Lindström, is ridiculously unsatisfied with various education bills that don't propose to spend at least $695 million, or more than one third of the state's surplus. House Republicans have proposed a $156 million increase in education spending over the two-year budget for 2016-17. Senate DFLers want $361 million in new spending. Dayton scoffs. He is greedily eyeing that anticipated $2 billion surplus and wishes to pass it out to the bottomless pit of public education, there being no evidence that money spent equals academic achievement or closes the achievement gap. Well, there are those superintendents who must be kept in high clover.

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TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: behavior; yutes
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To: Tucker39
Guys, always wear dark socks But they don't look cool with socks..
21 posted on 04/20/2015 6:26:56 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

Shorts.


22 posted on 04/20/2015 6:29:04 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Paine in the Neck

WITH!!! ...with whom you are eating. Oops.


23 posted on 04/20/2015 6:29:46 AM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: Tucker39
Ms Seaks re-inforced or better articulated what your parents wanted of you

In the 50's ... if you got punishment in school, you got it again at home

In the 50's, your neighbor, who saw you throw a rock at a window in an abandoned or vacant structure, called your mother and you got it from her ... until your father came home and you got it from him too .... as WELL as more Saturday chores, or no allowance or some other punishment

I remember very little discipline as a child, 'cause the ones I DID get, meant something and the remembrance of that one or two was sufficient to prevent (from my own internal comprehension of things) the three, four, five (etc.) events

24 posted on 04/20/2015 6:39:42 AM PDT by knarf
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To: TurboZamboni

Society is returning to a group of animals. The zenith of decorum has been reached and it is all downward from here. People with a modicum of respect are working hard to insulate themselves from the animals. Unfortunately government is working hard to prevent and reverse the insulation. The only thing that helps is vast amounts of money. Which goes to the old saying, “Life is a poop sandwich. The more ‘bread’ you have the less you taste the poop.”


25 posted on 04/20/2015 6:42:06 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: TurboZamboni

“Green Line”?

I thought this was about Boston, as the “Green Line” services several famous colleges!

BU, BC, Simmons, and a few others.

But the story applies to Boston as well, as i used to ride the green Line all the time and encounter the same thing over twenty years ago! :-(


26 posted on 04/20/2015 6:42:56 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: TurboZamboni
For all we spend on education, why don't they learn manners?

School didn't teach me manners. My parents did.

27 posted on 04/20/2015 6:46:48 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: TurboZamboni

Manners?

Wouldn’t that presuppose an understanding of “right” and “wrong”.

Doesn’t that require both self-respect and respect for others?

Do manners require humility?


28 posted on 04/20/2015 6:46:50 AM PDT by G Larry (Hillary Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: SMARTY

I hear ya! We’re becoming a culture of utterly selfish animals.
I’ve had similar episodes on elevators, airport shuttles, etc...


29 posted on 04/20/2015 6:47:15 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: goseminoles

NOW lottsa guys wear NO socks....even in WINTER! Deliver me! ;oD


30 posted on 04/20/2015 6:47:35 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: relictele
Public transport will, by definition, always have the public on board. Having met and observed many of them, I say no thank you.

The public used to behave differently. The mother of a very good close, long-time friend grew up in Manhattan. In the 1940's and 50's as a young woman, she would wear gloves in public, was never without a hat, and would travel the subway every day to and from her job on Wall Street. In her photos, she looked like Grace Kelly.

31 posted on 04/20/2015 6:49:00 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: TurboZamboni

32 posted on 04/20/2015 6:59:33 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Tucker39

LOL


33 posted on 04/20/2015 7:05:14 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: PGR88

Yes-now we get to see boobs and plumber pants on young women everywhere. I once called a the office at our medical clinic because I was so appalled at the outfit on a young woman in registration wore. It would have been inappropriately revealing at a bar, let alone a place of business.

Decorum, modesty, a respect for the place you are and the people you are with all seem to be relics of the past.


34 posted on 04/20/2015 7:05:26 AM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: TurboZamboni

There being no evidence that money spent equals academic achievement.
The last twenty years has proved that it’s like living around chimps.


35 posted on 04/20/2015 7:12:53 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: joethedrummer

You should see the Rapid Transit in Cleveland! No “Minority” kids pay, they all just jump the turnstiles.


36 posted on 04/20/2015 7:22:03 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: DoodleDawg

“School didn’t teach me manners. My parents did”.

Mine, too. It was an ongoing, continued lesson. When we could just talk, we said “please” and “thank you”. As we got older, the lessons progressed. I can remember fondly my Mother teaching me how to even dance (although it was difficult for her to take the lead). Table manners (which fork, spoon, elbows off the table) all explained and frequently. Looking back, it is amazing at how much we learned like you should take your sunglasses off when talking to someone or how to shake hands. This is a parents job.. not an educators IMHO.


37 posted on 04/20/2015 7:23:39 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: knarf

My father, who grew up in poverty in a single-parent home, in the Depression, was expected by his public high school to wear a coat and tie to school every day.

Don’t dare ask him if it was “a burden.” Everyone did it, and it instilled self-respect.

Imagine forcing public high school boys today to wear a coat and tie!?!


38 posted on 04/20/2015 7:36:32 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: TurboZamboni

They know the right thing to do.
They just refuse to do it.


39 posted on 04/20/2015 7:37:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: momtothree

Here’s the summary of the viewpoint of the left:

“Manners are racist”


40 posted on 04/20/2015 7:38:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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