Posted on 04/17/2015 6:46:28 PM PDT by Kartographer
Bugging out is something that I once failed to do, because I did not even realize that it needed to be done, actually I saw what was happening but I did not „proccess“ the information in correct way, so I stay and had to go trough whole period of watching, doing, and getting hit by violence, together with being cold, hungry, sick and everything else.
Because bugging out is so important and survival done right is often not getting into survival situations in the first place I stress importance of bugging out (if you are not already live in great bug out location anyway)
Consider the following couple of mistakes that I witnessed (more than one time).
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A metal garbage can would work too. As long as the lid seals tight and you use an insulator to prevent contact with the metal.
Happy cats! Mine would be in the greenhouse all the time, I imagine. And pretend they are jungle predators ;)
ok. thanks for the clarification.
YEs & yes.
They don't require near the pasture, don't requite grain, don't spook as easy nor need the vet near as much - All around win win, I think, for 'sustainable' situations....
you say: “ If power is out over the country, you won’t be subject to government anyone because their system won’t be working”
Theirs are the only systems that WILL be working - are you nor aware of the vast underground facilities they have, fully stocked, for their survival - do you not know that they are rushing all the heavy stuff they used to have safe in Cheyenne Mt, back INTO the mountain? -
Do some research -
Cheyenne Mt - NORAD
Underground facilitates stockpiled with food, water, shelter - for ‘the elite’ to ride out the beginning -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zzQ0q5f5l8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyfz90K6yKo
Yes. I was thinking - would a heavy construction grade trash bag work as an insulator?
No, the shield has to be electrically conductive.
It was Marcella that posted that - I just replied.
I rather thought the same as you - Big Brother will find a way. People were still exposed to the tyranny of government before the advent of electricity also. I think their effect will be lessened though.
I’ll need to get two then. Being herd animals, are they happier with a buddy?
Yes, I’d like 2 -
company for each other - and companion travel for me - and/or one to ride and one to pack...Maybe, if have to get even further ‘away’ - two to pack while people walk.
I have snow mobile trail maps for my state - should it become necc. to leave even my forest haven....
All contingencies should be thought out ahead.
But anyone that stays living in the city are gambling with their lives. All one has to do is read the histories of the fates of the city versus the country for survival in times of war...starting with the immediate needs for water, food, shelter (heat, etc.
If you are caught in the city - you STAY in the city - all routes will be either shut down by the gov’t or blocked with panicked mobs - You odds of survival are more than cut in half right out of the gate.
“But anyone that stays living in the city are gambling with their lives. All one has to do is read the histories of the fates of the city versus the country for survival in times of war...starting with the immediate needs for water, food, shelter (heat, etc.
If you are caught in the city - you STAY in the city - all routes will be either shut down by the gov’t or blocked with panicked mobs - You odds of survival are more than cut in half right out of the gate.”
That’s why we made the big move, and escaped Mexifornia. I don’t want to be caught where there are all the entitlement-grabbing illegals when the freebies quit.
We picked a nice, rural area where the people are poor in cash but have faith in God. They unashamedly carry weapons and grow their own food and animals and know how to do things from the days of their great-grandparents. And have welcomed us with open arms - since I’ve made it clear that I 1) escaped Mexifornia and liberalism and have no desire to bring that crap here and 2) want THEIR way of life and want to learn from them. They’ve seen plenty of the other kinds of outsiders - some call them Yankees still ;)
The old ways die hard here, and I’m glad of it. They are still a rebellious lot. We have a flag pole in our yard, and a new friend asked which flag I’ll put on it. Thinking she was referring to all the Mexican flags in mexifornia, I said a US one, of course. Then she informed me I should also put a ‘southern one’ on there, under the US flag. I didn’t know if she meant a Tennessee flag or is there is indeed a new ‘southern’ logo I knew nothing about. Nope, she meant a confederate flag. They are still mad about how the federal government treated them over 100 years ago. I think that will work out well when the feds try it again. IMO, this will be the place CWII begins.
Come down here when you tire of the snow, LOL!
ahahah -
That snow keeps - most of the flat-landers away. I came back 'home' 35 years ago - after 10 years in Calif...saw the writing on the wall then -
I grew up in up in northern part of the state - on my grandparents farm - There was no electricity in the area. WE lived quite a bit like people had "forever." Simple , self-sufficient and with everything we needed.
Most people today think that living without electricity is next to a death sentence.
My grampa was a Maine Guide - between raising food and hunting/fishing, we always had plenty of food. (During the '100-year Ice Storm of 1998, I was without power for 3 weeks. No problem. I had my wood stove, kerosene lamps, plenty of food/water, etc.
If TSHTF, I could live the way I grew up and enjoy it - although I'd miss my 'puter and hot water spigit ;)
bflr
I hear ya.
I personally think we (on these threads) invest a lot of time and energy on how to create electricity, when we could easier and cheaper design a life without it. All sources of generating our own electricity will fail at some point - not enough fuel, sun, wind. So we need a backup plan.
We will remodel our country house when hubby gets here, and I want/need a wood cookstove. Cooking on top of the current wood (heating) stove is an option, but wouldn’t have the versatility of a real cookstove for long-term use. In the summer, I guess i’ll cook outside ;)
We need to have all the equipment to survive without power - saws and axes, mules or donkeys, butter churn, hand grinders, the list goes on ad infinitum. Even if we don’t use them now, having them is just as important as having food storage and weapons. I know i’ll forget something though. Maybe you can help come up with a list we can post on these threads?
ps. You’re good at writing and have the skills and knowledge to survive happily without power. Ever considered writing what a week without power would be like, specifically addressing the items and skills needed? That would be very helpful on these threads, and survival blogs. I’ve seen bits and pieces, but never an in-depth description. It’s as if most are planning on this being a temporary event, and being able to refill our propane tanks or other fuels after the initial crisis. Perhaps that’s the normalcy bias seeping in.
Yes they do and NAPA doesn’t have most of the parts.
What are those beds made out of? Wood, plastic? I want material that won’t deteriorate like wood will.
Dig a stock tank. If nothing else, it’ll provide water during the wet season. Expensive today but priceless tomorrow.
Hahahaha! They will indeed be the first to bolt. Heck, they might beat him to the safe rooms and block his entry. They've made it plain multiple times they don't give a rat's rear for him. The Pentagon will attempt a power grab but the lowly foot soldiers will be more concerned about their families. Whatever the fan slings out won't be pretty.
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