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South Carolina police shooting defense: What the video doesn't show
la times ^ | 4-8-2015 | RICHARD WINTON

Posted on 04/08/2015 1:06:17 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

The video appears to be damning: a white police officer fatally shooting a black man in the back as he ran away.

The shooting of Walter Scott by North Charleston, S.C., police Officer Thomas Stager has generated national outrage. Stager has been fired and charged with murder.

Legal and police tactics experts said the video would be powerful evidence in the criminal case. But they say it still leaves Stager’s defense with options.

One likely defense focus will be what is not on the video. The interaction between Scott and Stager before the shooting is not seen, nor is the traffic stop that began the incident. Defense attorneys will probably push on this, the experts said, telling jurors that the video doesn’t tell the whole story.

“What was the conversation and interaction between the officer and the subject?” said retired Los Angeles police Capt. Greg Meyer. “Why did the subject run away?”

(Excerpt) Read more at touch.latimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 58yearoldman; copshooting; donutwatch; leo; oldman; triggerhappy; triggerhappycops
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Even the LA Times thinks there is more to this story.
1 posted on 04/08/2015 1:06:17 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Once he’s running away what does it matter? He wasn’t armed and he wasn’t endangering anyone at that time.

If one of our troops shot an ISIS member like this they would go to jail.


2 posted on 04/08/2015 1:08:07 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Citizen Zed

yep...until Jessie Jagmo and his sidekick show up with the mob


3 posted on 04/08/2015 1:09:47 PM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: Citizen Zed

There’s probably a helluva lot more to the story. But the bottom line? You DON’T shoot someone in the back. ESPECIALLY someone who is running AWAY. Murder? Meh, likely not. Manslaughter? Absolutely.


4 posted on 04/08/2015 1:10:23 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Resisting arrest isn’t smart.

It can get you killed.

But even if you’ve just had an altercation with police if you’re running away unarmed, shooting you in the back is a bloody crime. It should NEVER happen!


5 posted on 04/08/2015 1:10:56 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: Citizen Zed
No they don't. If you read the story it's pretty clear that they are entirely skeptical of the defense's ability to mount a serious case that this is anything other than what it appears to be.

This guy is in very serious trouble.

6 posted on 04/08/2015 1:11:09 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47 -- with leather.)
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To: Citizen Zed

It was murder. Nothing more, nothing less.


7 posted on 04/08/2015 1:11:33 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: driftdiver

Appreciate your clairvoyance in this matter...you can tell he is not armed? You can tell there are no place he is running to in order to pick up a weapon? You can tell he did not drop one weapon? You can tell he did not say, “you will be killed cop.”? Thanks for the trial by intuition.


8 posted on 04/08/2015 1:12:25 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Citizen Zed
“What was the conversation and interaction between the officer and the subject?”


9 posted on 04/08/2015 1:12:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Citizen Zed

This cop should fry. From what I see.


10 posted on 04/08/2015 1:13:03 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: dware

If a cop does shoot guy down like this, it is probably a good idea to not get caught on camera planting a taser next to the dead guy.


11 posted on 04/08/2015 1:13:24 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Citizen Zed

Why didn’t the officer press record, before initiating contact? ??


12 posted on 04/08/2015 1:13:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Citizen Zed

There’s no more to the story. The unarmed guy was running away and the cop shot him in the back repeatedly. There’s no excuse for that. Case closed.


13 posted on 04/08/2015 1:13:46 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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South Carolina police shooting defense: What the video doesn't show

It's hard to know what went on before the video picks up, but there are some questions:

Why did it take a couple of days for the video to surface? Were they slow in editing the clip in order to make it as damning as possible?

Cops have a "bully" mentality - that's why they want to be cops. Has this guy done anything previously?

14 posted on 04/08/2015 1:13:46 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (0bama may not be THE antiCHRIST, but he's definitely ANTI - CHRIST!)
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Yes, but what could possibly justify shooting an unarmed man in the back who is running away from you?

Not to mention carrying over the taser and dropping it near the victim’s body, so there would be evidence to support his claim that the man threatened him with a taser.

No excuse or justification for this. None. Am I wrong?


15 posted on 04/08/2015 1:14:12 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Citizen Zed

That isn’t what i read in the article.

Retired Los Angeles police Capt. Greg Meyer.

Meyer said one big hurdle for the defense would be the part of the video that appears to show the officer dropping a Taser gun next to Scott’s body after the shooting.

“Of particular concern is why the officer appears to move the Taser from one location to another after the shooting,” Meyer said

Watching the video, retired Los Angeles County sheriff’s Cmdr. Charles ‘Sid” Heal said there wasn’t much there to help the defense.

“The man basically is running and never even turns to look. He isn’t zig-zagging. He is just running and he’s shot several times in the back,” said Heal, who has testified in dozens of officer force cases. “Only with wildest of imagination can I contrive a set of facts that would explain it.”


16 posted on 04/08/2015 1:14:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: Citizen Zed

No, there as no excuse for this. The guy was running away, he had no accomplices, and even if he had had a weapon, he didn’t have it when he was running. And he was no immediate threat to anybody.

I’m totally pro-police, but this was wrong and the police officers or police related people in my family agree.


17 posted on 04/08/2015 1:14:22 PM PDT by livius
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To: Westbrook

Agree totally.


18 posted on 04/08/2015 1:14:29 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: Citizen Zed

Executed the man. Shot him in the back running away.

No defence.


19 posted on 04/08/2015 1:14:45 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: tennmountainman

Might be hard to prove murder in the 1st degree. Maybe 2nd degree murder.


20 posted on 04/08/2015 1:14:46 PM PDT by dforest
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