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South Carolina police shooting defense: What the video doesn't show
la times ^ | 4-8-2015 | RICHARD WINTON

Posted on 04/08/2015 1:06:17 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

The video appears to be damning: a white police officer fatally shooting a black man in the back as he ran away.

The shooting of Walter Scott by North Charleston, S.C., police Officer Thomas Stager has generated national outrage. Stager has been fired and charged with murder.

Legal and police tactics experts said the video would be powerful evidence in the criminal case. But they say it still leaves Stager’s defense with options.

One likely defense focus will be what is not on the video. The interaction between Scott and Stager before the shooting is not seen, nor is the traffic stop that began the incident. Defense attorneys will probably push on this, the experts said, telling jurors that the video doesn’t tell the whole story.

“What was the conversation and interaction between the officer and the subject?” said retired Los Angeles police Capt. Greg Meyer. “Why did the subject run away?”

(Excerpt) Read more at touch.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 58yearoldman; copshooting; donutwatch; leo; oldman; triggerhappy; triggerhappycops
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To: Teacher317

Your fleeing felon claim does not apply here.

The man was not a threat to the cop or anyone else.

The cop has been charged with murder because the video surfaced two days after the “routine” shooting, and the minute it did, his lawyer quit the case.


81 posted on 04/08/2015 1:39:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: Slambat
Even if they are toting an AK-47 and running for cover?

Was this jackwagon toting an AK? - NO

Or how about running to a car to get away?

Nope. No reason to shoot someone in the back who is running to a car to get away. You give chase, on foot or in your patrol vehicle. Excluding war efforts, only cowards shoot someone in the back.

82 posted on 04/08/2015 1:39:54 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: NRx

Thx!


83 posted on 04/08/2015 1:39:58 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: bray

I agree. Look at all the people cheering the notion that an apropriate way to handle a fleeing man is to shoot him eight times and then plant a weapon on the body.

Sure are a lot of shitheads judging the corpse to have been guilty, and they are glad he is dead.


84 posted on 04/08/2015 1:40:38 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Citizen Zed
Don't get me wrong this cop is a bad cop and needs to go down.

However the "good" news is that the number of people stopped by the police who decide to turn their backs and run will be down, way down.

85 posted on 04/08/2015 1:41:22 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Dutchboy88
???

You asked if it would make it a "fair fight". I said no, for the reason stated. Lol.

86 posted on 04/08/2015 1:42:25 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: Teacher317

I agree it doesn’t apply here. That rule/policy is intended for use with dangerous people who will go out and hurt other people unless they are stopped.

Expired tags not so much.


87 posted on 04/08/2015 1:42:35 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Citizen Zed

The Police still don’t have a right to shoot an unarmed man in the back!


88 posted on 04/08/2015 1:43:16 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Dutchboy88

Does the Constitution guarantee him a trial?

Or does the Constitution provide for summary executions for expired tags?


89 posted on 04/08/2015 1:44:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Timber Rattler

“There’s no more to the story.”

Really? You have read the officer’s report and the second on scene’s report?

The little matter of an outstanding warrant that popped up when the DL was called in .
Officer put subject under arrest, than the fight started.

I care no what color you are or the cop is, if you or anyone starts a fight after being told you are under arrest, your chances of surviving the incident just dropped dramatically.

This cop will never wear a badge again, but he is entitled to a fair trial, just like every other American.

Remember that little “Innocent until proven guilty” part of our legal system?


90 posted on 04/08/2015 1:44:34 PM PDT by wrench
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To: Dutchboy88

Oh, cut it out!


91 posted on 04/08/2015 1:45:29 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

“The Police still don’t have a right to shoot an unarmed man in the back!”

No, but they have the power.


92 posted on 04/08/2015 1:45:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Ya know.....The perp is running...its not like yu don’t know who he is,ya got his car and stuff..let his ass go...Let’em chill out realize he is screwed and arrest him ASAP.
Shooting him in the back is a bit to much ASAP

Cop F’ed up


93 posted on 04/08/2015 1:46:00 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Dutchboy88

Yea, maybe the victim was really an alien invader.


94 posted on 04/08/2015 1:46:52 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: wrench

“Remember that little “Innocent until proven guilty” part of our legal system?”

You mean the part that was denied the dead man?


95 posted on 04/08/2015 1:47:14 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: wrench

Have you even watched the video?


96 posted on 04/08/2015 1:47:36 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: MrEdd

Well, I have never ran from a cop and if I did I would expect to get shot. That old innocent til proven guilty is just so old fashioned.

Seems like you are a pretty quick shot yourself and then to accuse me of being a racist sounds awful familiar.


97 posted on 04/08/2015 1:48:13 PM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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To: wrench

“You have read the officer’s report and the second on scene’s report?”

The report the cop lied in?


98 posted on 04/08/2015 1:48:46 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: bray
Innocent till proven guilty is a judicial issue.

That is what he will be considered at trial.

People are allowed to have opinions before that!

99 posted on 04/08/2015 1:50:09 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Dutchboy88

You really are out of touch with reality!


100 posted on 04/08/2015 1:51:11 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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