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Mystery patch KB 3035583 for Windows 7 and 8 revealed
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| April 6, 2015
| Woody Leonhard
Posted on 04/06/2015 8:03:32 AM PDT by dayglored
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To: dayglored
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posted on
04/06/2015 2:15:22 PM PDT
by
Nuc 1.1
(Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
To: dayglored
Can I upgrade with only two gigs of ram; would it use virtual memory?
42
posted on
04/06/2015 4:10:18 PM PDT
by
Excellence
(Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
To: Excellence
>
Can I upgrade with only two gigs of ram; would it use virtual memory? 2GB of RAM is considered pretty small by today's standards. It'll run, but you'll be severely limited in how many applications you can have running at one time, how many browser windows at one time, etc.
You don't want to rely on virtual memory. Yes it'll save your bacon in a pinch. But it's slow -- "virtual memory" means "save the overflow on the hard disk". And reload it from the hard disk when you want to access it again (called "swapping"). And back and forth. SLOOOOOOOOOOW doesn't begin to describe the performance hit.
That's true for all virtual memory, BTW, not just Windows.
You can improve the swapping situation somewhat if you're using a solid-state disk (SSD), but you'd be better off getting another 2 or more GB of RAM, than a SSD, at least at first. OTOH, if your computer can only hold 2GB RAM max, then an SSD will improve things over a rotating hard drive.
So the answer I'd give you is, Yes you can upgrade with only 2GB of RAM, but you'll soon wish you had at least 4GB.
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posted on
04/06/2015 4:34:27 PM PDT
by
dayglored
(Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
To: dayglored
Thank you for your reply.
I use my computer to compose long emails and post to Facebook and Twitter. I use my 8.1 phone to do short emails and post to Twitter and FR. I use the computer in the living room to watch t.v. shows on the Samsung. I just miss having the One Drive folders on my desktop, not to mention all my bookmarks are there, although I can access them on my phone. So I really look forward to being able to upgrade and, if Windows 10 will be free, all the better.
Thanks again.
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posted on
04/06/2015 5:52:59 PM PDT
by
Excellence
(Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
To: dayglored
I’m on Excede satellite internet with 27 gig per month. It’s un-metered between midnight and 5 am. So I don’t need to have a 7 Gig download happen in the middle of the day.
Also, I’ll do a fresh install from DVD media but not an upgrade.
To: Dalberg-Acton
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Ill do a fresh install from DVD media but not an upgrade. Given the distribution of the Technical Previews as .ISO files, you should be able to do that. But I don't know if they plan to make DVDs available for retail. Have you heard about that?
46
posted on
04/06/2015 6:33:45 PM PDT
by
dayglored
(Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
To: dayglored
won’t they be able to disable the technical preview iso’s when they release the real thing?
47
posted on
04/06/2015 6:37:04 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
To: GeronL
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wont they be able to disable the technical preview isos when they release the real thing? Well, they have a disable switch in the Technical Preview operating system such that it won't run past the date they set, and since it has to be in touch with the Mothership over the internet, you can't just "set the clock back" on your own computer and fool it.
The ISO itself doesn't get disabled, per se, you'll always be able to burn a DVD from it, install from it, etc. but the resulting installation of the OS won't run past that disable date.
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posted on
04/06/2015 7:16:08 PM PDT
by
dayglored
(Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
To: dayglored
49
posted on
04/06/2015 7:38:28 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
To: dayglored
To: rarestia
Thanks. Understand what you meant. I actually love the cloud given all the years of infrastructure support I’ve had to do: backups run, restores failed, servers ruined, overheat, worry about power, hardware go belly up 2 days after warranty, software installs causing already installed software to fail, etc., etc.
Not having to worry about all that and make it Microsoft’s (or Amazon’s or Google’s) fault is a blessing! This is mainly a corporate issue.
As you say, at home; not so much... Unless you are a home user like either one of us—and then you have servers and VMs and all kinds of configurations to deal with at home as well as the office!
today I brought up my Windows Technical Preview vm on Azure... It expires on 15 April! Seems like MSFT hasn’t got the 10000 build in Azure yet....
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posted on
04/06/2015 7:56:58 PM PDT
by
Alas Babylon!
(As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
To: Alas Babylon!
It took me longer than I care to admit to understand what you meant by 10000. It’s going to take some time to get used to seeing that. I’m so used to typing 9600 or 6.3.
I couldn’t agree more that cloud infrastructure is the best bet for corporations. It’s putting storage administrators out of work! But then EMC is going to continue to charge outrageous money for their storage, and it’ll continue to be necessary.
And yes, my home network is very robust if not a little overkill, but then I wouldn’t be a good tech nerd if it wasn’t. I have over 20 TB of storage in my home with most of it being redundant across multiple storage arrays and several Hyper-V hosts acting as infrastructure for my personal email server (I can do that too, Hillary!), DNS, etc. I just don’t want an OS that’s going to force me into the cloud. I initially thought Win8.1 was going that route, but they pulled the nose up.
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posted on
04/07/2015 4:16:01 AM PDT
by
rarestia
(It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
To: John S Mosby
The question, John, is whether your intention is to get a new machine on which to divorce yourself from Windows or use your existing Windows machine. If it's a new machine, you'll have to follow the advice on how to run Windows apps under Linux, but you will also need those Windows apps in a form that can be transferred to the Linux machine. As well, you will have to save off your existing data like pictures and documents so you can put them on the new machine if you still want access to them. None of this is especially difficult, but it helps to know all of the things involved.
If you're going to use your old machine, you can either completely wipe it out and install Linux or you can do what I did with my XP box which is to install Linux
alongside XP to create a dual-boot machine. Completely wiping out and installing Linux is the same as getting a new machine and you do everything as you would in that case.
With a dual-boot machine, though, you have the option when you start or restart to boot into Linux or boot into Windows. This provides a number of advantages, especially when you're concerned with running Windows apps and accessing your existing data. For one thing, you'll always have the option to boot into Windows if there's something that you truly need to do under it and you're unable to get it working quite right with Linux. I'm not saying that's going to be the case, but you have that option.
Another is that with a dual-boot machine, the Linux side of the machine has access to your entire hard drive which means it sees your Windows partition as one of its drives. (It doesn't work the other way around—Windows is like Schultz and knows nothing about the Linux side of the street.) Having access from Linux allows you to use any of your existing data so that you can open your resume in OpenOffice or edit your pictures with Gimp, two of the Linux apps, or you can use Wine to run your Windows apps and access them. It also eliminates the need to save off the data and restore it as you would with a new machine, though you should certainly save that data anyway.
You're still going to have updates under Linux, but they don't drive you insane like Windows updates can with their, "Do not turn off the machine. I know I just tied it up for half an hour applying updates, but I'm doing more updates after forcing you to reboot and if you even look at me the wrong way while I'm doing this, I'll melt your hard drive into a pet rock." And you'll find plenty of help out there from really smart and helpful folks who will explain in copious detail or just provide a very slick command line instruction that cures what ails you.
The only other thing left is deciding on which Linux distro and as others have posted, you can download and try them by making a LiveCD using either a CD or DVD, or a thumb drive. Most machines now handle the thumb drive, but I have some old ones that will not boot from them. I use a program called Yumi from
Pendrivelinux.com to make my thumb drives. It's very easy to use and allows you to put multiple distros on a drive which is really convenient for trying these guys out.
You can get an idea of which distros to try by Googling things like "Linux distros newbies" and by going to
DistroWatch.com which lists all of them with reviews, popularity and other elements to help you in choosing. I use Netrunner on my dual-boot machine along with Zorin, Mint, Puppy and LXLE on other machines. Plenty to choose. Plenty.
Well, good luck with the Windows divorce. You should have a bit of fun exploring this and finding your way.
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posted on
04/09/2015 7:16:58 AM PDT
by
Dahoser
(Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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