No one's life, liberty or property is safe while Congress is making laws. Mark TwainWe’re in such good hands. GOD help us.
WHAT IN NAME OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND DECENT IS WRONG WITH FREEDOM!? Sorry for shouting this morning, but I’m so tired of this canard. Let’s get rid of this ‘law’ and then worry about what we can do to fix the system; like get the government the blank out of the way, plus some tort reform.
Of course it’s all talk. Just a little red meat kabuki for the GOP base. No substantive engagement of the kenyan because progressive GOPers don’t want that.
The GOP will cave on another omnibus spending bill in the fall with a POTUS election on the horizon. If the GOP were going to fight obamacare it would have been this year. They didn’t. Case closed.
> ““We have to have a plan in place by then,” Mr. Ryan told reporters.”
Oh yes, the Ryan man with a plan.
The only replacement for Obamacare is THE FREE MARKET ECONOMY. Anything else is just more unconstitutional socialism.
There is no point in trying to design a better "nationalized" health plan.
Once implemented in will morph into socialism, central planning, government misconduct, corruption, political slush fund.
Ask Native Americans or military veterans about the competence and reliability of politicians and government bureaucrats.
Plan A: No plan. The free market.
I have always been wholly skeptical when that word "replacement" is bandied about. If Conservatives are serious they will Repeal it and repeal just about all other interferences in the Medical marketplace. Anything less is just playing socialist games.
Is Tyranny too much for you, try new and improved “Tyranny Lite” Now with 10-20% less Tyranny!
(some conditions apply, overall tyranny will still remain the same, just over a longer period of time, blame a democrat if tyranny lasts for more than 4 years.)
Last time I looked the pre-Obamaramacare medical care was the best in the world. Don’t throw the baby out with the scumwater
Dumber than Patty Murray Ryan can bite me.
the insurance lobby demands it.
No one's life, liberty or property is safe while Congress is making laws. Mark TwainFreedom to buy insurance or not buy insurance,
Freedom to pay more for pay for every thing plans
Freedom to pay less for pay for only catastrophic conditions
Freedom for insurance plans to deny coverage to people who were already sick, hurt or ill prior to getting coverage.
Freedom for the insurance companies to cover any thing or nothing and set their own prices based on what people are willing and able to pay.
The alternative plan is FREEDOM!
Nothing else is necessary.
As FReepers read the following material, consider that the feds would probably have never criminally established Obamacare outside the framework of the Constitution if weren’t for the ill-conceived 17th Amendment (17A), state lawmakers foolishly giving up the voices of state lawmakers in Congress when they ratified it.
Regarding Sen. Ryan’s guidance about GOP's Obamacare replacement, and with all due respect to mom & pop, as a consequence of Sen. Ryan's parents evidently not making sure that their son was taught about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers, Sen. Ryan doesn’t seem to understand the following. The states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for intrastate healthcare purposes. This is evidenced by the excerpts below from Supreme Court case opinions.
Since the Supreme Court is now deciding the constitutionality of the Obamacare insurance mandate, especially note the fourth entry in the list concerning Paul v. Virginia (Paul). The Paul excerpt indicates that the Supreme Court has historically clariifed that insurance policies are contracts, not commerce, Congress therefore having no Commerce Clause power to regulate insurance policies, regardless if such policies are negotiated across state borders.
”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. [emphases added]” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
“Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass.” —Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.
”4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce [emphasis added] within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract of indemnity against loss.” — Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)
“Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously [emphases added] beyond the power of Congress.” –Linder v. United States, 1925.
Also note that regardless that federal Democrats, RINOs, corrupt justices and indoctrinated attorneys will argue that if the Constitution doesn’t say that the feds can’t do something then they can do it, the Supreme Court has addressed that foolish idea too. Politically correct interpretations of the Constitution's Supremacy Clause (5.2) aside, the Court has clarified in broad terms that powers not delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate healthcare in this case, are prohibited to the feds.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
So if Sen. Ryan really wants the GOP to establish its Obamacare replacement within the framework of the Constitution then this is what he must do. Ryan must rally both Houses of Congress to propose a healthcare amendment to the Constitution to the states. And if the state’s choose to ratify Ryan’s amendment then the GOP will actually have the the constitutional authority that it needs to establish their Obamacare replacement and Sen. Ryan will be a hero.
Getting back to 17A, again, consider if that amendment hadn’t been ratified, effectively repealing the Constitution imo, then not only would Obamacare probably not been wrongly established outside the framework of the Constitution, but with all due respect to Constitution-respecting justices there would probably be all different faces on the Supreme Court at this time.
The 17th Amendment needs to disappear.
rino kabuki continues. i guess it’s fundraising time again.