They both sound like selfish idiots. I don’t care about what kind of perverted acts these people do, and I certainly don’t need to have the media shove it into my face. I long for the days when being “prudish” was normal and expected.
These people are straight up a$$holes. They want to put religious people and their caring for children into a hole of shame. It is the reverse prudity policy of the gays, shoving this style in children faces. Talk of vasectomy should be a himt.