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To: SeekAndFind
An example would be the use of a double negative (I can’t get no satisfaction). It makes complete grammatical sense, as an intensifier.

Bull. A double negative is a positive. The second negative is a modifier which turns the first negative into a affirmative. Or to state the math rule, "minus a minus is always a plus".

So the speaker is stating that he does get satisfaction.

5 posted on 03/17/2015 7:41:58 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Is the word “Ain’t” still proper English?


10 posted on 03/17/2015 7:43:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Language is NOT mathematical. People forget that to their own undoing.

/johnny

15 posted on 03/17/2015 7:44:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Or to state the math rule, "minus a minus is always a plus".

That was before Common Core came along. Who knows if it's true or not now.

16 posted on 03/17/2015 7:45:06 PM PDT by teacherwoes (Alethephobia-fear of hearing the truth)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Most varieties of early English used double (Chaucer even reached a quadruple once) negatives as intensifiers. The English around London which became standard had the quirk of not allowing double negatives. That being said, descriptivist linguists can dispassionately investigate and write papers about the origins of that rule at the same time prescriptivist teachers can teach people that in modern English double negatives aren't used and get out the big red pen when students them.

Also, aren't those who state that all linguists must be descriptivists themselves prescriptivist on that issue?

45 posted on 03/17/2015 8:03:08 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

And if riting used the rules as rithmetic, you would be correct


75 posted on 03/17/2015 9:05:09 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Television: Teacher, Mother, Secret Lover)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
It's called "negative concord" cf. Wikipeida Double negative

"Ther nas no man no wher so vertuous" ("There never was no man nowhere so virtuous"). - Chaucer

... and if Chaucer ain't English, I don't know what!

79 posted on 03/17/2015 9:16:21 PM PDT by dr_lew
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