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To: JRandomFreeper
Math is not communication, regardless of how much literallists want it.

This assertion is probably the best indication there is of your absolute confusion on the topic, and why it's probably pointless to attempt to communicate with anyone who understands so little.

Mathematics is the most essential form of communication. It is -- provably -- the only language in which self-consistent and unambiguous truths can be communicated. It is the language of all real science, and communicates between those who speak it at levels far higher, far more abstractly, and far more quickly than anything that English can achieve.

We must agree to disagree, and I seriously doubt that you can even understand why. This is often the paradox: those capable of uttering nothing but grunts and profanities believe themselves to be "communicating" something raw and essential.

Nope. They aren't. Animals don't speak mathematics. [Some] humans do.

113 posted on 03/18/2015 4:51:15 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Hail Hydra!)
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To: FredZarguna
How many dialect of American English exist today? How many existed in the time of 'Mark Twain' when this debate was ongoing?

You demand ONE, and there is no ONE. Just your narrow understanding, and willingness to make the ignorant come to your level. Of course, you do that because teaching is hard work.

I've done fine, teaching illiterates to understand 1920s american standard dialect as show in magazines from that era.

Your absolutist, math based language crap is why conservatives are doing such a terrible job of teaching their positions, and why they matter.

This is not a new argument. Sam Clements made jokes about it, over 100 years ago.

You are massively ignorant on communications. You may be ok with math, because with math there can be only one. Not with languages.

/johnny

114 posted on 03/18/2015 5:15:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: FredZarguna
Mathematics is the most essential form of communication. It is -- provably -- the only language in which self-consistent and unambiguous truths can be communicated.

What language is this? ...

The evanescent subtense of the angle of contact, in all curves which at the point of contact have a finite curvature, is ultimately as the square of the subtense of the conterminous arc.

It looks and reads like english!

( This is LEMMA XI of Book I of Newton's Principia, in Motte's translation. )

118 posted on 03/18/2015 8:19:55 PM PDT by dr_lew
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