Posted on 02/07/2015 11:58:57 AM PST by Olog-hai
Pope Francis emphasized the right to food as fundamental in a video address Saturday to 500 experts starting work on a wide-ranging document aimed at raising awareness and proposing solutions to issues including hunger, obesity and food waste.
Francis said the paradox of abundance described by Pope John Paul II—whereby there is food for everyone yet not everyone can eat—continues to be an issue “despite the multiplication of organizations and responses by the international community on nutrition.” […]
He also urged them (the experts) to show courage in protecting the planet “the mother of everything that asks respect and not violence.” …
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“when will frankie start calling the earth GAIA???”
Mother Earth is bad enough. He sounds like a new age Mother Earth nut.
The Mother Earth reference is at the Vatican.com site
http://vatican.com/news/frame.aspx?url=http://www.news.va/en/news/holy-see-religions-are-partners-for-sustainable-de
If the US used its corn as a food instead of as ethanol and HFCS, problem solved. Perhaps the Vatican could pay for it and deliver it to starving Christians.
He does, ask the Papal Almoner.
Here is what the Pope told him:
“The Holy Father told me at the beginning: ‘You can sell your desk. You don’t need it. You need to get out of the Vatican. Don’t wait for people to come ringing. You need to go out and look for the poor,’” Krajewski said. Krajewski gets his marching orders each morning: A Vatican gendarme goes from the Vatican guesthouse where Francis lives to Krajewski’s office across the Vatican gardens, bringing a bundle of letters that the pope has received from the faithful asking for help. On the top of each letter, Francis might write “You know what to do” or “Go find them” or “Go talk to them.” And so Don Corrado, as he likes to be called, hits the streets. Archbishop Krajewski has visited homes for the elderly in the name of the pope, writes checks to the needy in the name of the pope.[7]
Thank you for pointing that out. I am trying to find a transcript of the address.
To say that you have a right to food, apart from what you produce yourself, receive as a gift, or obtain in free exchange from another, is to say you have a right to the product of someone else’s labor or, more directly, that you have a right to someone else’s labor. That is slavery.
The Pope is being consistent.
The right to life does not stop when one is expelled from the womb.
What does this have to do with right to life so-called and per se? There is no “right” to have the rest of society be forced to maintain you.
Amen, to that!
In the Bible those who grew crops were told to leave the edges and dropped grains etc. that the poor might glean for their food. No one was told to gather for the poor.
No workee no eatee. That way the “poor” didn’t multiply like rabbits.
Also the churches were to only aid those who in TRUTH were widows. Not those who ran around having kids for others to have to feed.
Where sthe structural causes of poverty can be identified and they are not environmental (drought, fire, earth quake) they are government.
In recent years socialism has been the primary structural cause of poverty.
Socialism has been the cause of poverty in most third world countries.
Socialism causes negative feedback in the economies of developing countries. Socialism demands high taxes on the creative individuals in those countries either causing the creative to be less creative because of the punishing taxes levied on their creativity or driving them out of their native land to countries with less punishing taxes.
If you really want to solve the problem of poverty institute Free Market Capitalism. As an example of the great things that capitalism can do I give you the miracle of Hong Kong. An island with few resources yet has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world. Hong Kong has low taxes and free trade the recipe for a successful society. Where there is success there is little poverty
If you want to solve structural causes of poverty allow people to be FREE.
Here is how Vatican Radio translates that phrase:
“Pope Francis said “our planet is a mother for all of us,” it asks for respect and not violence, or worse still, the arrogance of masters. We must hand it on to our children, cared for and improved, because it’s a loan they make to us. And it’s not just Christians who should adopt this approach for safeguarding our earth, it’s the responsibility of everyone, he said. But in order to do that, pointed out the Pope, we need to take care of ourselves and not be afraid of goodness, or rather tenderness. We need “to safeguard the earth not only with goodness but also with tenderness.”
This is really quite different in both meaning and context.
Interesting. Is that a God given right? Or like an Obama right? Maybe a bad translation?
What I find interesting is that the AP retracted their own translation quite rapidly.
We need “to safeguard the earth not only with goodness but also with tenderness.”
What is this supposed to mean?
The from elsewhere in the address: remembering that “the root of all evils is inequality.” If we really want to solve these problems and not lose ourselves in sophisms we need to tackle the root causes. And to do this, the Pope stressed, there are urgent choices to make: a rejection of the total autonomy of the markets and of financial speculation.
Doesn't sound like freedom and capitalism, can't wait for the environmental encyclical. This guy is a tool of the left.
It is pretty simple, really. Our mother’s womb nourished us, and provided us a place to develop. Likewise, the planet earth, through God’s creation, provides us food, water, and a place to live. It does the same for all of God’s creatures.
As stewards of all of God’s creation (Gen 1:26), we are called to maintain it thoughtfully, and in ways that will provide for generations to come. In other words, exercise a conservative philosophy regarding ecology, as well as resource exploitation and allocation.
Several previous Popes, including St. John Paul II, spoke against unrestrained capitalism (as well as socialism), which doesn’t include concern for others, but for profit only. Pope Francis continues this discussion, reiterating the need to think about and treat all people with the dignity God has given them.
Regarding financial speculation, I have no idea what he is talking about. Speculation is a way to provide future market stability, as well as accurate forecasting; think airlines purchasing fuel futures.
One last thing, since he was speaking to a group working on agricultural issues, it does make sense that he put emphasis not just on people, but also on land use and the environment in general. This was not an address in a vacuum, nor was it specifically a papal pronouncement on environmental issues in general.
So Christians call it 'mother' and really mean it? I don't think that is a Christian idea. Sorry. As for the Pope's statement on anything economic, lefties need not apply. The US is suffering under them now, they have no economic ideas worth anything, for them it is about power.
Its an analogy! Like all analogies, it is imperfect.
Nice straw man. The Earth, which God created, has characteristics that are similar to a mother. Again, an analogy.
Perhaps you should take time and read the following “Centesimus Annus,” also Pope John XXIII, “Mater et Magistra.” Don’t forget the granddaddy of them all, “Rerum Novarum”, by Pope Leo XIII
Finally:
“Among the actions and attitudes opposed to the will of God, the good of neighbour and the ‘structures’ created by them, two are very typical: on the one hand, the all-consuming desire for profit, and on the other, the thirst for power, with the intention of imposing one’s will upon others.” (John Paul II, encyclical letter Sollicitudo Rei Socialis, n. 37.)
In all cases, the Holy Fathers are teaching the primacy of the human person, and their God-given dignity. No system, whether capitalism, Marxism, socialism, etc., works or is just, if it doesn’t focus on the human person. Additionally, other Popes speak out against Marxism because of its rejection of private property.
That's great, this one doesn't, he's current, and he is the one in league with 0bama and the EPA. Defend him if you must, I think he needs to shut up or confine himself to Catholicism. The rest of humanity has enough meddling lefties with which to contend.
The EPA? Are you serious? Why in the world would a Pope, a sovereign leader, have anything to do with the US EPA? That makes absolutely no logical sense.
He is the leader of the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics, and like every other human being, is free to express himself as he wishes. Does he not have the right to free speech?
He duty-bound to speak on issues of faith and morals, as well as the dignity of all of mankind. Show me any other religious leader, or political leader who does that. Hint, there isn’t one.
The Pope doesn’t need to write any new document to indicate the Church’s position on Marxism or socialism. It has already been done. That’s one of the beauty’s of Catholicism, continuity of teaching.
Resist the reflexive urge to believe everything you read, even if it suits your bias. As a Freeper, your intellect should be made of heartier stuff.
It doesn't make sense, but it the EPA administrator was at the Vatican for consult about the environmental encyclical. Seriously, I understand why Catholics who defend this Pope get all up in arms, but do your homework. Search FR.
As a Freeper, your intellect should be made of heartier stuff.
My intellect is fine, after your a search, lets see about that apology. Once your intellect has become heartier.
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