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1 posted on 01/29/2015 1:51:29 PM PST by Enlightened1
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Interesting video... Makes a good case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8XPk8Tlid4


2 posted on 01/29/2015 1:53:13 PM PST by Enlightened1
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Yes and people like it that way, why else would they champion:

'If you aren't cheating you aren't trying hard enough.'
3 posted on 01/29/2015 1:56:14 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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I have suspected this about Basketball in particular for some time. The score never seems to reflect runaway victories; it often comes down to last-second shots. Ditto with Cricket, where “sixers” needed to push a score over a certain number at the end of a game suddenly seem effortless.

I would imagine such scripting would be more difficult for Football and Baseball, due to the number of variables and “moving parts” in a game. Hence the wider win margins. I guess in those sports it’s more a case of the coaches making sure that their team, if the designated “loser”, is not performing better than the opponent.


4 posted on 01/29/2015 1:57:33 PM PST by Little Pig
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Too many people and organizations make too much money off of professional sports to allow “fixes”. Their fine lifestyles would simply go away if hardcore fans, advertisers and networks knew same for sure. To say nothing of the gaming world and its participants.

Hard to imagine.


5 posted on 01/29/2015 1:58:19 PM PST by EagleUSA (Liberalism removes the significance of everything.)
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Next you’ll be telling me that WWE isn’t real...


6 posted on 01/29/2015 1:59:58 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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There’s definitely too much money on the table for there not to be cheating and match ‘fixing’. It’s probably very difficult to ‘fix’ an entire match, but there are surely ways to ‘tip’ the balance. A crooked referee could have a huge impact on a game without being obvious.


7 posted on 01/29/2015 2:01:53 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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If they were fixed wins, and championships, would be much more evenly distributed. Parity is the ultimate fan base builder, dynasties kill fan interest. And yet every league regularly has dynasties. Also if they were fixed there’d be a lot fewer blowouts, especially in the prime time and playoffs.


8 posted on 01/29/2015 2:04:15 PM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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Maybe we should ask Pete Rose.


9 posted on 01/29/2015 2:04:46 PM PST by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village (and an AK 47 to defend it).)
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Probably, just like politics. Why should sports be any different?


11 posted on 01/29/2015 2:07:38 PM PST by mulligan (I)
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Professional wrasslin’ is real.


12 posted on 01/29/2015 2:08:37 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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Duh!


13 posted on 01/29/2015 2:11:55 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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Is there money involved or do they play for Free , LOL


14 posted on 01/29/2015 2:13:47 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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Ok, ‘professional sports’ has to be distinguished from individuals vs. teams.

I don’t see how bowling, golf, etc. or any one of the “individual” sports can be “fixed”.


15 posted on 01/29/2015 2:13:51 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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The Black Sox Trial1919:

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/blacksox/blacksoxaccount.html


16 posted on 01/29/2015 2:14:35 PM PST by Wiz-Nerd
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Does it require a very small number of people to throw a game, like 2 or 3?

If only such a small number of people would know about it, then I could believe the conspiracy is possible.

If lots of people are in on it, I really doubt it could be kept quiet for a long time


18 posted on 01/29/2015 2:19:49 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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I definitely think there are big fixes. I also think there should be more public discussion of these possibilities. It is self serving but I have looked at this with the Dallas Cowboys and the NFL. They “used to be” America’s team. They had a massive media market and dominance across the NFL. In the 1990s they won three superbowls and established a dominance that threatened the NFL as a national market.

I think Jerry Jones made an agreement with the NFL to engage in a power-sharing agreement with the NFL that would prevent the Cowboys from maintaining dominance. Ever since that era, it stuns me how the most expensive 2 billion dollar sports roster of the Cowboys continually ends up like Charlie Brown in the playoffs while neat geographic tricks like the Patriots 911 and the New Orleans Katrina win happen.

It is a marketing manipulation. I think at the heart of this is officiating.

I think more people should examine sites such as:

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/penalties-per-game

When you start studying not just how often teams are penalized but even how infrequently their opponents are penalized, you begin to see patterns— especially over the years that are not random.

If these non-random patterns were discussed, it would make it more difficult for manipulations to be achieved.

I do think the NFL owners know and have agreed that it would be bad to allow one team to dominate or even a few. The winners need to be spread around.

I also think referees control the games so that they don’t get out of hand in the first half. Blowouts reduce viewers. Penalize dominant teams in the first half enough to get to the halftime show and most of the commercials. Otherwise, the NFL is losing money on blowouts not watched.


20 posted on 01/29/2015 2:23:08 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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I don’t think it is scripted like pro wrestling but I thin referees make certain calls (ahem pass interference calls magically overturned or completions magically turned into incompletions) that affect the outcome of pro football games. We all know how easy it is to rig NBA games and baseball games. I tend to think the NHL is on the up and up.


25 posted on 01/29/2015 2:30:53 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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I believe a lot of NFL players throw games. The psychopath class.


26 posted on 01/29/2015 2:31:26 PM PST by Carry me back
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My Dad taught me,

“Whenever there is big money involved, someone is going to find a way to cheat.”


30 posted on 01/29/2015 2:54:00 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Would you leave a multi-billion dollar business up to chance?

Like the NCAA?

31 posted on 01/29/2015 3:23:51 PM PST by pilipo (GOP=Gutless Old Party)
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