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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It seems to me that if you go back 50-100 years, things were a little like this:

The upper class had multiple servants
The middle class might have a maid (on TV, we saw this with "Hazel", "The Brady Bunch", "Maude", "Family Affair", etc. These shows were not ridiculous. Plenty of people lived like that.)
The lower class did basic work, including being the "help" for the others.

The Middle Class, by the way, usually had one income (the man). So, with one income, you can be in the middle class, raise a family, and have a maid.

Around about 1960 or so, feminists (who didn't have jobs, and didn't take care of a household -- they had a maid for that sort of thing) stood up and said, "We're bored and we don't like being second class citizens!" And they insisted on joining the workforce.

And there's nothing wrong with that, although I'm not sure they ended up with a great deal, that's not really my business.

And somehow we have transitioned to a society in which the middle class is shrinking rapidly -- and golly you need two incomes to even think about being middle class -- and men increasingly do not work, and a great many people are on the dole.

Something tells me that we went down a horrible path somewhere.

13 posted on 01/27/2015 7:09:04 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Malort, turning taste-buds into taste-foes for generations.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; All

I agree with you, 100%. I am grateful to SOME of the women who went before me - who sacrificed ACTUAL blood and freedom so I could have a vote, join the military, etc. (Molly Pitcher, Susan B. Anthony, etc.)

But those worthless, WORTHLESS feminists sold so many women a bill of goods and they are 100% RESPONSIBLE for a huge chunk of our failing society.

I, for one, appreciate a man that will help me through life. Sure I can do it myself, but it’s SO much easier when you have two in the yoke pulling in the SAME direction. :)


22 posted on 01/27/2015 7:18:38 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“And somehow we have transitioned to a society in which the middle class is shrinking rapidly — and golly you need two incomes to even think about being middle class — and men increasingly do not work, and a great many people are on the dole.”

It’s pretty simple math. Labor is a commodity like any other, and its price is dictated by supply and demand. So, if you double the supply of available labor in a country overnight, while demand remains steady, what happens to the price of labor?


28 posted on 01/27/2015 7:42:02 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: ClearCase_guy
Around about 1960 or so, feminists (who didn't have jobs, and didn't take care of a household -- they had a maid for that sort of thing) stood up and said, "We're bored and we don't like being second class citizens!" And they insisted on joining the workforce.

Reminds me of a commercial I saw about women and heart disease. Since more women entered the workforce, they have higher chance of heart disease and stroke which in many cases affected males more. I have nothing against women in the workforce if they get there by merit, but they also have to accept the consequences too.
39 posted on 01/27/2015 9:46:03 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Women were lured into the workforce with the material things that discretionary income could buy; as incomes rose prices did as well, and now that second income isn’t buying a shore house - it is buying groceries and other essentials.

Families could live on one income, but it would be in a dangerous area; now the second income is to get you further from unassimilated multi-generational welfare populations.


44 posted on 01/28/2015 1:59:47 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative aiction s economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ClearCase_guy
the people on "Hazel" seemed rich to me as did every single sit com or tv show.....middle class did NOT have maids....

drs and lawyers were RICH and maybe they had maids....

69 posted on 01/29/2015 8:55:06 PM PST by cherry
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