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Ex-players react: Brady‘s cluelessness ‘unbelievable’
nypost.com ^ | January 22, 2015 | Howie Kussoy

Posted on 01/23/2015 12:52:58 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

For more than a decade, Tom Brady has established himself as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time, one of the sport’s most popular and respected players. On Wednesday, Brady may have jeopardized his credibility for good.

Like Patriots coach Bill Belichick, Brady denied having anything to do with footballs being deflated in the AFC Championship Game and denied knowing it had occurred until the next day, but to the quarterback’s former peers, the NFL’s golden boy lost some of the luster he had earned in his 15-year career.

“I did not believe what Tom had to say,” former quarterback and ESPN analyst Mark Brunell said.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: billbelichick; cheatingonthecharles; deflategate; deflatriots; faceitnesucks; markbrunell; neagain; newengland; nfl; sorelosers; stillcheating; theyrecheatinagain; tombrady; whatelseisnew; whatsthenlatesttrick; whiners; winbycheating
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To: lepton; All

Has Coach Payton, NO, made a statement about fairness and equal treatment?


181 posted on 01/23/2015 11:33:01 AM PST by GOYAKLA (Leftist women are such a damned embarrassment...)
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To: Sacajaweau
WEEI.com in Boston reported Tuesday that the Patriots used 12 backup footballs for the second half of Sunday's game after the game officials tested the primary balls at halftime and found them to be under-inflated

The Patriots led the Colts 17-7 at halftime, but outscored Indianapolis 28-0 in the second half to secure their sixth Super Bowl appearance since 2001.

Bwahhh!

182 posted on 01/23/2015 11:37:37 AM PST by McGruff (We have met the enemy and they are our own party.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
A couple of days ago, ESPN NFL analyst (and former NFL quarterback) Tim Hasselback noted on SportsCenter that the process of "seasoning" the footballs to the quarterback's liking is primarily between the quarterback and the equipmnent manager, NOT with the head coach.

As such, I put most of the blame on Tom Brady himself. And one more salient fact: Brady admitted in a news article published in 2013 that he likes footballs to be slightly underinflated. How does a US$100,000 fine and a two-game suspension the start of next season feel, Mr. Brady?

183 posted on 01/23/2015 11:45:00 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

If the NFL does not suspend either Belecheck or Brady, and New England wins, the Super Bowl will be seen as illegitimate by every football fan outside of the New England States.


184 posted on 01/23/2015 11:56:01 AM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Brady didn’t know about this like Obama didn’t know about the IRS scandals.


185 posted on 01/23/2015 11:59:05 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan
Brady didn’t know about this like Obama didn’t know about the IRS scandals.

LMAO ....good one.

186 posted on 01/23/2015 12:00:20 PM PST by tioga
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To: HamiltonJay

I ref volleyball and the psi range is 4.3 -4.6. I can tell by feel if it is 4.3 or 4.5.


187 posted on 01/23/2015 12:03:39 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Psalm 73

OK, OK, you win. Nobody cheated, the balls spontaneously deflated.

Bad luck it happened to NE, who have earned a tarnished reputation because of prior bad acts.


188 posted on 01/23/2015 12:04:25 PM PST by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Tom Bady. Snapping necks and banging 10s for 15 years. Jealous eh?


189 posted on 01/23/2015 12:07:34 PM PST by strider44
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To: Repeal 16-17

Nobody is getting suspended for this. I don’t think anybody has even been punished for breaking this rule before. And 99% of football fans think this whole “controversy” is basically comedy and will not see the SB as illegitimate.


190 posted on 01/23/2015 12:09:00 PM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: USS Alaska; Girlene; kevkrom; lepton; TexasGator
TexasGator very alertly pointed out an error in my post #60’s calculation of the football's pressure: When using an Ideal Gas Law, the pressures must be absolute, and not pressures read from a guage.

My improved calculation: A football with a gauge pressure of 12.5 psi at 72 F should have a gauge pressure of 11.4 psi at 49 F.

This calculation assumes that the air is behaving as an ideal gas, and the ball is at sea level. Neither is true of course, but won't affect the results very much. What might affect the results more are other factors, like the non-rigid behavior of the ball, as lepton has pointed out.

191 posted on 01/23/2015 12:09:34 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

pv = nRT

Assuming v, n, R are constant:

P/Po = T/To

p= T/To/Po

P = (49+273) / (72+273)*(14.7+12.5)= 25.4 psia

PSIG = (25.4-14.7) = 10.7


192 posted on 01/23/2015 12:15:58 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: SeaHawkFan

“I ref volleyball and the psi range is 4.3 -4.6. I can tell by feel if it is 4.3 or 4.5.”

LOL. The ball can vary more than over a psi just to temperature at playing conditions alone!


193 posted on 01/23/2015 12:21:15 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: discostu
99% of football New England Patriots fans think this whole “controversy” is basically comedy and will not see the SB as illegitimate.

Fixed. All other football fans will think the Patriots are cheaters and will a view a Super Bowl XLIX victory as fundamentally tainted.

194 posted on 01/23/2015 12:23:03 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

No, football fans across the board. I’m a Steelers fan and I think it’s silly. My Packers fan co-worker also find it hilarious. My Colts fan boss find it dumb. People don’t care. There’s nothing new about ball manipulation. And also nothing new about nobody getting punished for it:
http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/11218/nfl-aware-of-game-ball-incident-during-panthers-vikings

As both teams dealt with the freezing temperatures, Fox cameras showed sideline attendants using heaters to warm up game balls, which is against league rules.

Zimmer said he hadn’t heard anything from the league about it on Monday, adding, “Somebody told me (Carolina’s) ball boys were doing it.”

The only people who will find it tainted are whiny drama queens who make every HUGH and SERIES. Out here in reality it’s a dumb story to pass the most boring week on the NFL calendar.


195 posted on 01/23/2015 12:26:05 PM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: TexasGator

I believe you made the same temperature conversion error in your post #192 that I made in my post #60 (I corrected it in my post #191).

K = (F + 460) * 5/9

Not K = F + 273


196 posted on 01/23/2015 12:28:39 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: discostu
I never said other teams don't do this. I find it very disturbing that the league knew of ball manipulation and seems to have done nothing about it.

Teams should no longer possess footballs on the sidelines. The NFL should be solely in charge of football maintenance.

197 posted on 01/23/2015 12:35:05 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

I think the league realized at some point that their rule is kind of silly (really why 12.5 to 13.5 PSI, what the great tragedy of 12 or 14 or even 10.5) so they’ve kind of taken to ignoring it. The league used to be solely in charge of that, but nobody liked it, and it didn’t work either:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/reminder—brad-johnson-paid-for-super-bowl-footballs-to-be-doctored-142642094.html

As the MLB has learned repeatedly over the years, the players have a way they like the football and they’ll do what it takes to make it the way they like. The more this thing has banged around the more I’m with Aaron Rodgers (from before this whole “controversy”), it shouldn’t even be a rule, let the QB setup the balls how he likes, as long as it’s not completely retarded (like stickum) who cares.


198 posted on 01/23/2015 12:39:54 PM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: TexasGator

one ball was left inflated just in case they were caught...

that’s how you know they were cheating.


199 posted on 01/23/2015 12:40:19 PM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Leaning Right

Thank you. My first calc yesterday used an on-line calculator. Today I got sloppy.

273.16 K corresponds to exactly 0.01 °C .018 °F.


200 posted on 01/23/2015 12:42:27 PM PST by TexasGator
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